Thursday, 9 March 2017

New Burger Robot Will Take Command of the Grill in 50 Fast Food Restaurants

quote [ Would your burger taste as delicious if it was made by a robot? You’ll soon be able to find out at CaliBurger restaurants in the US and worldwide. Cali Group partnered with Miso Robotics to develop Flippy the burger robot, which made its debut this week at the Pasadena, California CaliBurger. Miso and Cali Group … ]

Almost 5 million people in America work in Fast Food service.
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[by evil_eleet@1:20pmGMT]

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midden said[1] @ 2:10pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:2 Underrated]
Fast food jobs are pretty much "busy work" for an economy that no longer needs most humans actively engaged in feeding, housing, transporting, manufacturing goods and entertaining the population.

Between the 4.5 million fast food workers, 3.5 million truck drivers and 0.75 million taxi and bus drivers, we can expect somewhere around 9,000,000 US jobs disappearing over the next decade or so. And do we really need 200,000 Starbucks baristas?

It seems inevitable that a basic, guaranteed income is in our future. We certainly have more than enough wealth to make it happen; a 2% tax on the top 10% earners could easily cover it without any noticeable effect on the lifestyles of those taxed.

edit: the top 10% should also be based on local cost of living. In San Francisco, that would be $239k or more, while in Phoenix, it would be $150k.
evil_eleet said @ 2:17pm GMT on 9th Mar
Oh, my sweet summer child. ;)

In a rational, forward thinking nation, yes UBI would seem to be inevitable. However, we're still arguing for single payer health care and have been moving in the opposite direction while calling it socialism. I hope you're right, and I'm working with people towards it, but we will probably see a violent upheaval before we see UBI.
midden said @ 2:25pm GMT on 9th Mar
Oh, yes, I do agree with you. I don't think it's going to happen without a very messy fight, quite possibly not limited to politics, but in the streets. At some point it will have to happen, though, to stay competitive in a global economy. In a rational, forward-thinking country, we'd already be putting it into effect.
steele said @ 2:38pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:2 Insightful]
We are so not ready for this shit.
midden said @ 2:54pm GMT on 9th Mar
I just found out that there's already something similar right near me.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Eatsa-The-Return-of-Automated-Dining--394592031.html
steele said @ 6:26pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 laz0r]
The more I think about, the more I think we'll see the automat style be rolled into the current systems. It'll provide a means of disconnecting the face of humans from the servers while at the same time making it more compatible with the kiosk/mobile app ordering systems. An ordering app with GPS on your phone could make it so your order is timed to take up as little real estate as possible while still being ready and available as soon as you walk in. I'm having visions of a kind of dystopian system where the doors don't even open for you unless you've ordered and paid, demonstrating your "ableness" and likelihood to be on your way quickly after finishing your meal. Maybe throw a jackbooted security thug in the mix as the last human standing in fast food business, if the security bots can't get authorization for tasers. ;)
Spyike said @ 8:32pm GMT on 9th Mar
If it's a drive-through (I refuse to spell it the other way) rather than a sit-down restaurant, and the system is reliable enough, I can see that getting real popular real quick, actually
Spyike said @ 8:56pm GMT on 9th Mar
I mean cripes, you're saying that
A. Your food will be freshly (reasonably freshly) cooked for you, rather than sitting around under a heat lamp.
B. You don't have to fuck around shouting your order into some billboard with a terrible cheap microphone and speaker.
C. Don't have to awkwardly hand cash through a small window to a cashier, so they can give your change back.

You, sir, just improved every single aspect of the fast food experience!
steele said @ 9:37pm GMT on 9th Mar
Awesome, right? I'm not against advancements, I'm just against the part where we ignore the societal impact and do nothing to alleviate it.
mechanical contrivance said @ 3:02pm GMT on 9th Mar
But humans are still making the meals, right?
steele said @ 3:08pm GMT on 9th Mar
Still not sure. It's marketed as fully automated, but the occasional article will talk as if there's a cook behind the scene even though Eatsa isn't letting people see behind the scenes.
midden said @ 5:26pm GMT on 9th Mar
kitchen
steele said @ 3:09pm GMT on 9th Mar
I believe that's the one the Carl's JR CEO was inspired by.
bbqkink said @ 1:37am GMT on 10th Mar
This is fancy pass bar...It does eliminate the waitress.
5th Earth said @ 4:25pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
Any job that can be done by robots will be done by robots.
sanepride said @ 4:27pm GMT on 9th Mar
I, for one, welcome our new burger-flipping robot masters.
lilmookieesquire said @ 12:16am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Funsightful]
You would.
midden said @ 2:31pm GMT on 9th Mar
This seems like a backward solution to the problem of cooking burgers. A conveyor belt system like that used in pizza making would make a lot more sense, rather than trying to emulate a human flipping burgers with a spatula.
steele said @ 2:46pm GMT on 9th Mar
This style of the bot means less upgrading of the kitchens while still being able to keep humans involved in case of technical failure. Rather than an assembly line I could see them modularly gutting out the various functions of human employees, bot by upgraded bot until you've got 2 or 3 highly versatile bots dividing the whole kitchen. I'm sure some of the newer fully automated restaurants (like the Carl's Jr CEO is planning) we see will experiment with the conveyor, but for now this seems like the most likely in-between stage.
midden said @ 2:50pm GMT on 9th Mar
Yeah, that makes sense. It's not unusual for early transition technologies to be significantly less efficient than the later, more integrated versions of the same idea.
bbqkink said @ 5:08pm GMT on 9th Mar
while still being able to keep humans involved in case of technical failure.

Who while they are waiting to put on the cheese or for this machine to screw up they could...flip the burgers.
bbqkink said @ 6:46pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:-1]
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steele said @ 7:37pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:0 laz0r]
It probably will be old tech in no time. That's the point, dude. You think this is it? You think a burger flipping robot is the only thing in the pipeline? The only thing to be worried about? This is nothing more than a stepping stone, a gauge of where we're at so that those of us who aren't talking out our ass can extrapolate what's coming in the near future. Remember how quickly computer processors were coming out back in the day? You couldn't buy a machine without it being obsolete within a week. That's what we're gearing up towards in automation tech. We're about to be hit with a flood of low cost innovation that's going to transform the employment landscape. And you think you're offering insight by pointing out a grill gets hot?
bbqkink said[3] @ 7:58pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:-1]
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evil_eleet said @ 2:36am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1]
I saw that article and chose not to use it because of the misrepresentation of the headline.
The Majority Of Fast Food Workers Are Not Teenagers, Report Finds

You're claiming this is propaganda against workers wanting minimum wage, while repeating propaganda used against workers wanting minimum wage.
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HoZay said @ 4:12pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:-1]
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HoZay said @ 7:54pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:0 Informative]
I'm agreeing with you. I'm just looking for somebody in the national discourse with more influence than you and I.
steele said[1] @ 8:16pm GMT on 10th Mar
It's likely that's where organizing is going to need to come in. There's going to need to be protests and movements around UBI directed towards media and asking our "journalists" why they're not talking about it. I mean fact of the matter is without Occupy and it's sheer undeniable size, inequality probably wouldn't have even been on the map large enough for Bernie Sanders to do as well as he did. Who was it, D.H. Lawrence? 'What the eye doesn't see and the mind doesn't know, doesn't exist.' The media is far more powerful than most people on this site are giving credit to, they shape the thoughts and conversations of this country. If we want DC to get their shit together, we need a 4th Estate that can hold them to the fire.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:28am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:-1]
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bbqkink said @ 3:08pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1]
Found it...This doesn't really show the size but does give you an idea of how it works
Nelson's Patented Grills - Live

And I do think it was custom built.
HoZay said @ 2:27am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:-1]
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HoZay said @ 3:29am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Terrorism is not even really a threat at all. It's used by domestic propaganda machines to justify racist scapegoating and expansion of police state. Even a 9/11 scale event is not an existential threat to the US. The old Soviet Union at least lit up a nuclear bomb once in a while to remind us that we could actually be wiped out.
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Ankylosaur said @ 4:15pm GMT on 10th Mar
Pew pew pew!
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:48pm GMT on 9th Mar
McDonalds already has a grill that cooks both sides of the burger at the same time. We don't need to flip burgers at all.
bbqkink said[1] @ 3:22pm GMT on 9th Mar
This about a clunky expensive inefficient machine that Red Green could have built. It still needs a human supervisor will break easily and will need repaired or replaced often.

Yes automation is coming, it has been coming since Robert Fulton. but this is a disaster and will blow up as soon as it is deployed.

There have been big steps in automation over the years. Driverless cars and trucks looks to be the next major one and will disrupt the labor force...hamburger flipper..lmao.

This looks much more like an intimidation device to scare minimum wage workers and keep them from asking for a living wage.
bbqkink said[1] @ 3:45pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:0 Underrated]
Hey numb nuts. this is not a new concept...WTF up.

What is now the international fast food restaurant chain Burger King was founded in 1953 in Jacksonville, Florida, as Insta-Burger King. Inspired by the McDonald brothers' original store location in San Bernardino, California, the founders and owners, Keith J. Kramer and his wife's uncle Matthew Burns, began searching for a concept. After purchasing the rights to two pieces of equipment called "Insta" machines, the two opened their first stores around a cooking device known as the Insta-Broiler. The Insta-Broiler oven proved so successful at cooking burgers, they required all of their franchises to carry the device.

We have had burger machines that flip and cook burgers for a long time now...this new one is as waek as your brainwashed premise. Anther down vote and lack of comment ...you are consistent. You were right this is old...just not in the insulting way you suggested.
HoZay said @ 8:13pm GMT on 9th Mar
Part of why I like Five Guys, besides the great burger, you can see the kitchen full of people who like what they're doing. But they're not in the race to the bottom.
Marcel said @ 9:33pm GMT on 9th Mar
Yeah, but Five Guys is flippin' expensive.
sanepride said @ 12:48am GMT on 10th Mar
And that right there is part of the problem- people's expectation that their fast/restaurant food has to be cheap. That's part of what fuels the exploitation of labor in those fields.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:24am GMT on 10th Mar
I agree, but some people see food, literally, as fuel, and that's where they make price cuts at the expense of their health and it burdens our healthcare system.

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https://qz.com/251202/the-only-food-that-poor-americans-can-afford-is-making-them-unhealthy/
HoZay said @ 3:03am GMT on 10th Mar
Maybe it's a cultural/education thing, but even considering food as just fuel, crappy fast food doesn't seem like a good choice. Fast food, chips, and soda is convenient, but doesn't seem cheap at all.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:02pm GMT on 10th Mar
A pot of rice and beans in cheap.
HoZay said @ 3:50pm GMT on 10th Mar
Right, pork and chicken are also cheap. I'd much rather eat homemade taquitos etc, than anything from burger king.

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