Thursday, 11 April 2019

Can Bernie Sanders Finally Start Acting Like the One Thing He’s Never Been: the Favorite?

I saw this and thought, "...It's been a while since we had a riot."

No quote. Title suggests author's position on Sanders, not going to cherrypick anything positive or negative from the article. Posting because it gives some fresh perspective about what people think and why.

Personal thoughts. We tend to turn candidates from people into living symbols, and then often lose track of the duality. No matter how much of a symbol someone becomes, they won't stop being just some person. When we can't separate the ideology we believe someone represents from that person, that can lead to a break-down in rational discussion about values, how to pursue them, and what compromises we can make with eachother to get anything done at all. When you combine that with our innate tendency toward tribalism, meaningful communication and achievement become impossible; it's just about not letting "them" win, whichever side you perceive as "them".
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[by snowfox@2:11amGMT]

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Anonynonymous said @ 4:37am GMT on 11th Apr
But...But... Muh Andrew Yang UBI!
spaceloaf said @ 7:34am GMT on 11th Apr
It looks to me like this primary is less about "cult of personality" and more about populism versus centrism.

It seems like most of the populist side won't really care as long as its one of Bernie, Gabbard, Yang, etc. and most of the centrist side won't really care as long as its one of Harris, O'Rourke, Biden, etc.

However, those two sides definitely oppose each other. So there is a tribalism happening, but it doesn't seem to really be based on individuals as much as ideology (at least so far).
Anonynonymous said @ 7:47am GMT on 11th Apr [Score:1 Insightful]
Which's why my prediction is that we'll most likely have to endure Trump for 4 more years.
snowfox said @ 6:00am GMT on 16th Apr
From a purely strategic standpoint, Centrism is the way to go. Trump has low approval ratings and many conservatives would cross over if the Democratic candidate isn't too offensive to them. We can always push further left once we have power, but we have to get power first. Obama's ACA was not a single payer system, but it established something we could potentially realize would be better as a single payer system.

Foot in the door method. It's worked very well for conservatives trying to eliminate access to abortions.
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