Saturday, 7 February 2015

The Brewing Shitstorm

quote [ Hallmark, a 4 Billion Dollar company, has stolen one of my poems to market cards to mothers with children. ]

You guys remember our old SE friend, the bird-lion hybrid, cardinal? He's gone on to writing poetry and books and things and it seems Hallmark Baby has recently stolen one of his bits to help market their website. So if you'd like to help stir up trouble or just enjoy a good old shitstorm, hop on the Fuck Hallmark bandwagon. If we really try maybe we can kill the greeting card industry in time to prevent valentine's day ;)

Fun fact: This quote, often attributed to Kurt Vonnegut, is actually cardinal's.
[SFW] [literature] [+10 WTF]
[by steele@6:28pmGMT]


cardinal said @ 8:19am GMT on 9th Feb [Score:4 Funsightful]
You fucking guys are the fucking best.
lilmookieesquire said @ 7:00am GMT on 10th Feb
Who loves you baby?
Bleb said @ 9:33pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:2 Funsightful]
It looks like Hallmark has committed a...

Cardinal sin.
arrowhen said @ 9:36pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:2]
You ain't lion.
ComposerNate said[1] @ 11:01pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:3 Underrated]

cardinal, his mane flows free.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:26am GMT on 8th Feb [Score:2 Good]
steele said @ 2:36am GMT on 8th Feb
fingers crossed you make it out of usersub.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:38am GMT on 8th Feb
I don't expect it to, but it's a good cause.
sanepride said @ 7:34pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:1 Interesting]
So cardinal is actually this guy Iain Thomas?
According to Wikiquote, this is the first appearance of the misattributed 'Vonnegut' quote. Funny thing is this first appeared some four months after Vonnegut's death.
steele said @ 8:16pm GMT on 7th Feb
Yeah, the internet meme factory isn't really one for accuracy.
HoZay said @ 9:38pm GMT on 7th Feb
Go cardinal! Maybe this incident will sell some books.
papango said @ 11:12pm GMT on 7th Feb
It sold one to me. I really liked the quote so I bought the book.
lilmookieesquire said[1] @ 9:45am GMT on 8th Feb [Score:1 Good]
Went viral at 3k likes:
lilmookieesquire said @ 9:53am GMT on 8th Feb
I posted that in reference to the other post- which ironically never went viral, and now my spelling mistake is immortalized.
steele said @ 12:48pm GMT on 8th Feb [Score:1 Insightful]
Oooh, or maybe that's what did it. They saw that typo and were like, "No. No. Leave it in."

steele said @ 12:00pm GMT on 8th Feb
I was watching it rise before I went to bed. He's got a way with words that resonates rather well with people.
steele said @ 12:49pm GMT on 8th Feb
Jeebus, it gained 500 points in the 30 minutes I went to go workout.
steele said @ 12:50pm GMT on 8th Feb
Yup. Frontpaged. Nice.
lilmookieesquire said @ 12:52pm GMT on 8th Feb [Score:1 Funny]
I was watching the other one and I was all sad it didn't go viral then I clicked on the other one and I was like HOLY SHIT.

SE's still fucking got it. Just say'n.
steele said[2] @ 6:35pm GMT on 7th Feb
Hrrm, facebook won't let me link directly to the post or the SE code is stripping an important part of the url...

Shit, it's the SE code.

edit2: fixed!
steele said[3] @ 7:04pm GMT on 7th Feb
steele said[2] @ 7:20pm GMT on 7th Feb
Don't mind me testing stuff.
Okay that seems to have done it.

Youtube changed around their opengraph stuff so if you start having problems posting youtube links let me know. Think I've got it for now though.
HoZay said @ 8:20pm GMT on 7th Feb
This isn't going to interfere with Blowjob Day is it?
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:21pm GMT on 7th Feb
Fortunately, Steak and a Blowjob Day doesn't involve cards, just steak and blowjobs.
HoZay said @ 8:26pm GMT on 7th Feb
Who gets the steak? I may have been doing this wrong.
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:48pm GMT on 7th Feb
Whoever has a stomach gets a steak, and whoever has a penis gets a blowjob.
steele said @ 8:25pm GMT on 7th Feb
If you want to give a steak and a blowjob to your romantic partner I don't see why you can't do that any day you like...
midden said @ 8:34pm GMT on 7th Feb
While this certainly sucks for the author, the appropriate thing for Hallmark to do is find the lower level person who swiped the work and fire them, then pay the author an industry standard fee for his work. I'm sure it would be a tiny drop in their advertising and PR funding bucket. And they'd come out smelling like a rose.
HoZay said @ 8:40pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:1 Informative]
They've apologized and linked to the book on amazon. They're probably done.
DjonnDoh! said @ 10:58pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:1 Informative]
Well they were going to but now they're not. If you check the discussion on FB:
Iain complained their apology wasn't an appropriate answer. And now they're going to be talking grown up answers.
sanepride said @ 11:26pm GMT on 7th Feb
Controversy over the plagiarism aside, that Hallmark baby FB page is perhaps the most horrifying, frightening thing I've ever seen.
HoZay said @ 12:11am GMT on 8th Feb
It's a fast-moving story. Wait til CNN gets hold of this.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:36am GMT on 8th Feb
I posted one of the screen shots on Imgur to try to social media it up a bit. Feel free to stop by and upvote it to help it go viral.
HoZay said @ 9:09pm GMT on 7th Feb
There's kind of a lot of unattributed uses of that quote.
steele said @ 9:34pm GMT on 7th Feb
True, but even in your search results the first page has a a link that attributes it to him. Making sure they have proper attribution and/or licensing is part of Hallmark's responsibility.
HoZay said @ 9:42pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
Absolutely, I wasn't letting Hallmark off the hook, just noting that everybody on the internet feels pretty free with other people's work.
steele said @ 10:07pm GMT on 7th Feb
Oh, yeah. Totally.
ComposerNate said @ 11:06pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:2]
The internet has made it very easy for people to confuse "awareness" with "productive actions."
Bleb said[1] @ 11:08pm GMT on 7th Feb

EDIT: Hey steele, can we not mod after commenting? I thought that was a thing we could do now.
steele said[1] @ 11:50pm GMT on 7th Feb
Subscribers can do it, because I can't really stop them from doing it. Haven't decided about changing it either way. Technically the purpose behind mod then reply is a solid one, as it's meant to curb arguments, but given that so few people bother modding up or down it makes things somewhat moot.

edit: you can mod and reply at the same time though...
Ankylosaur said @ 9:43pm GMT on 7th Feb
Can we get Hallmark to quote Hitler?
Bleb said @ 9:58pm GMT on 7th Feb [Score:5]
SnappyNipples said[1] @ 4:25am GMT on 8th Feb
Was it Hallmark that got into PA's case for them parodying strawberry shortcakes? And then PA's followers literally wrecked the card makers year in profits?

Correction it was American Greetings/

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