Thursday, 14 December 2017

Time to release the internet from the free market – and make it a basic right

quote [ Internet providers seized a tool built at public expense, privatized it, and sold it back to us for profit. Repealing net neutrality will only make it worse ]

The FCC voted 3-2 to repeal the Net Neutrality Regulations.
[SFW] [politics] [+10 Yep ]
[by steele@6:43pmGMT]


eggboy said @ 7:22pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:2]
Jesus Christ, you see this shit? It's like they want this cunt to be hated.

PSA from Chairman of the FCC Ajit Pai
Ankylosaur said @ 7:38pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:1 Insightful]
So you can still consume products and services from companies that are already big enough to pay-off other people's ISPs to continue to have access to their users.

What if I want to start my own Instagram and I'm not already a billionaire?
the circus said @ 7:24pm GMT on 14th Dec
Beat me to the reference.
steele said @ 7:46pm GMT on 14th Dec
I'm waiting for violence. Someone's gonna go all Mockingjay on them. #WeBurnYouBurn
hellboy said @ 9:12pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:1 Yep ]
I want that douchebag to be raped by rabid weasels who then eat their way back out from the inside.
steele said @ 9:19pm GMT on 14th Dec
I mean, part of me would like that too, but I also know any violence will be used as an excuse to further authoritarian causes. Pai is a figurehead, the real enemy is the industry undermining america and the ignorance of the people. Wheeler was anti-net nuetrality too until the dems saw it was political suicide.
eggboy said @ 9:31pm GMT on 14th Dec
Gotcha, bomb the verizon board of directors
steele said @ 9:38pm GMT on 14th Dec
Welp, we had a good run with se2.
Mythtyn said @ 12:11am GMT on 15th Dec
Maybe you can have mansons old cell?
eggboy said @ 1:30am GMT on 15th Dec
I think you'll be okay steele, the comments on that youtube video alone have got enough death threats to tie the NSA up for the next few years, like an impressive amount of personal death threats
steele said @ 1:53am GMT on 15th Dec
It's all automated now. The drones are probably on their way.
eggboy said @ 3:10am GMT on 15th Dec [Score:3]
To die for the cause is glory, cell leader steele! As you feel the flames of injustice rain upon you, know that we will inflict ten times the purifying fire upon the capitalist pig-dogs in retribution. You may die brother, but the movement is forever!
EvilNinjaX24 said @ 9:19pm GMT on 14th Dec
I'm legit waiting for "Anonymous" (or some similar group, real or imagined) to strike back and really mess with some of these assholes.
eggboy said @ 5:12am GMT on 15th Dec
Not so fun fact, if you type "where does a" into google it comes up "where does ajit pai live". There's a lot of people that hate him, some of em are bound to be arseholes, if I was his kids I'd be sleeping at Grandma's for the next week.
norok said @ 7:35pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:2 Underrated]
This is an issue that is cut and dry for me and has been for years. Net neutrality is a good thing; the greatest thing about the Internet up to this point.

I find myself against my normal allies because they've made it into a partisan issue.
rylex said @ 10:23pm GMT on 14th Dec
Theres always room for you on our side. This could be a stepping stone...
C18H27NO3 said @ 3:15pm GMT on 15th Dec
Deprogramming is available, but at a cost.
Ankylosaur said @ 7:47pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:1 Insightful]
So, since ISPs are no longer common carriers, does that mean they are responsible for everything done on their network? Can I sue someone's ISP if that person does harm to me, since their ISP is complicit in any acts originating from their media service? (Obviously I can't sue my own ISP for letting bad things through to me, but only since I'm contractually forced into arbitration. But I've signed no contract with other ISPs, so... a million cuts in small claims courts?)
Headlessfriar said @ 7:51pm GMT on 14th Dec
Sure, if someone looks at kiddie porn on their phone, sue their phone provider. That's what loss of common carrier should mean.
conception said @ 8:48pm GMT on 14th Dec
I'm pretty sure all the "Save the children" stuff of the 90s exempts telecoms from being liable. Best of both worlds!
Fish said @ 10:19pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:-2]
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Ankylosaur said @ 10:36pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:0 Underrated]
Your paperboy lightly edits your newspaper? I think you need to work on this analogy a bit more.
the circus said @ 7:23pm GMT on 14th Dec
Ankylosaur said @ 8:51pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:2 Informative]
hellboy said @ 9:11pm GMT on 14th Dec
You've reminded me that hatefucking is the one thing (some) Republicans are good for.
eggboy said @ 11:31pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:1 Funny]
I wouldn't trust myself not to stop choking her
Fish said @ 10:20pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:-5 Repost]
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Ankylosaur said @ 10:31pm GMT on 14th Dec
Please pay for your upgraded No Down-Mod™ tier SE service. Thank you.
Fish said @ 11:27pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:-5 Unworthy Self Link]
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kylemcbitch said @ 2:27am GMT on 15th Dec [Score:-4]
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Fish said @ 2:59pm GMT on 16th Dec [Score:-5 Troll]
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backSLIDER said @ 3:16am GMT on 15th Dec
What kind of asshole has to look at his lightsaber to extend it?
kylemcbitch said @ 9:17pm GMT on 14th Dec
Don't worry *too much* over this.

First, this is going to be immediately challenged in a DC federal court. Pai is going to have to show that this change was no capricious in nature, which he can not. His only claim against this being a capricious change is the public comments, which we can already prove over 2 million of them are fake.

So, ISPs will get to run roughshot for few months/better part of a year. That sucks. However, unless Pai's got some secret legal weapon, this can't possibly stand.
mechanical contrivance said @ 9:30pm GMT on 14th Dec
Forgive me for not sharing your optimism.
kylemcbitch said @ 10:09pm GMT on 14th Dec
I can understand that, but as someone who's job it is to understand this process (I work for a CLEC,) I am not scared yet. Concerned, yes.

I will get scared when Pai pulls out some surprising legal argument or the case gets tried in some deep red state.
Fish said @ 10:21pm GMT on 14th Dec [Score:-2]
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kylemcbitch said @ 10:30pm GMT on 14th Dec
Uh, it's already going a direction I disagree with. It's just that the direction it's gone isn't exactly legal. Let's see what Pai's argument is before I start getting worried. This is literally what I said.

You're really bad at trolling, might I suggest a day-job?
Fish said @ 3:02pm GMT on 16th Dec
the direction it's gone isn't exactly legal

I'm as surprised as you that Pai hasn't sought your legal advice.

might I suggest a day-job?

Got a good one; pay more in taxes than you make in a year. Say hi to your mom. I'm almost done with the anti-biotics.

cakkafracle said @ 3:21am GMT on 15th Dec
Wulf said @ 2:15am GMT on 15th Dec
The ruling doesn't go into effect immediately, they first need to draft a plan of action so for the time being nothing changes.
Mythtyn said @ 10:13pm GMT on 14th Dec
We need to open bandwidth lines. Just like we allow different providers to use the same electric and gas lines, we need to allow different isps to provide bandwidth over the existing lines to encourage competition so the big providers have incentive not to fuck with people more than they already do.
HoZay said @ 12:37am GMT on 15th Dec
Elections have consequences, continued.
bbqkink said @ 12:41am GMT on 15th Dec
HoZay said @ 12:47am GMT on 15th Dec
New York attorney general announces a multi-state lawsuit challenging the net neutrality vote

“We will be filing a claim to preserve protections for New Yorkers and all Americans. And we’ll be working aggressively to stop the FCC’s leadership from doing any further damage to the internet and to our economy,” Schneiderman said in a press release.

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