Saturday, 14 January 2017

Listen Liberal... it is much easier to take over the Democratic party than reinvent the wheel

quote [ Bernie Sanders Is Shifting The Democratic Establishment
His new strategy has Democrats rallying in 40 cities on Sunday.


“For the first time in the modern history of the Democratic party, we’re going to see aggressive outreach efforts,” Sanders told The Huffington Post. “This is a beginning, I hope, of a transformation in the Democratic Party. … Our work has to focus on energizing people where they live and showing them what we are fighting for.” ]

Boy do we owe this guy bigtime.
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kylemcbitch said @ 11:02pm GMT on 14th January
This is my comment to you, because clearly you are going to cherry pick statements and not actually repond to the surrounding points.

I was a Bernie supporter how about you? Still think that is the right way how about you?

I am obviously a Bernie supporter, but only to a point. He made the same mistake you are right now. That is, to tell us the status should remain in place while we try to work from within it. That hasn't worked in 30 years, because that can't work. You must disrupt the process in order to effect change. The Civil Rights movement knew this, which is why they focused on not just protest and statements but making it plainly obvious that they would overwhelm the ballot box and vote only for the people that backed their needs.

I was referring to things that happened before you were born the world did not start yesterday just because you did.

Nor did the world stop after you became an adult. In fact, it was during those years that groundwork for stripping the finacial security was layed without any serious opposition.

Does your history go back to 1968...we were a little busy around here I got to see my first political convention...well the view from grant parks anyway.

I think my prior two responses in this comment make it pretty clear.

you didn't even vote...

Yes I did.

give me a break...

No.

you don't even realize just how fucked you really are...and for what so you can say that you are a pure ...what is sure as hell ain't progressive...because what is about to happen will be the most regressive thing you have witnessed I have see it bad this will be worse.

You better believe I am going call Foobar out for stupid fucking identity politics I am going to call you out for it too. Go fuck yourself in regards to how progressive I am or not.

You seem to think I am some sort of coddled child. I have seen the worst things we have to offer. I grew up in Camden, NJ where I got to watch the government foreclose on houses and provide the inhabitants with checks of $5.00 or less for their homes. I watched the failed drug war tear families apart, and I got to watch Bill Clinton make it worse.

I went to elementary and middle school where I was thrown into SPED classes with people that had to be seat belted into their chairs so they wouldn't hurt themselves or me. I was placed there in first grade because I was bored in class. Due to the policy at the time, the school had a vested interest in keeping as many students in such classes as possible (to the tune of $20,000 per student per year.) Because of this I still struggle to this day with long division or more difficult math because every year we'd start over from basic addition and subtraction despite the fact 50% of the class clearly understood those basics.

I went to highschool were we had race riots weekly.

I can go on about my experiences with failed Democratic policies in my life time and how "bad" I have seen things get. Don't think for a second that you somehow have a monopoly on that understanding just because you are older than me, sir.


kylemcbitch said @ 11:02pm GMT on 14th January
This is my last comment to you, because clearly you are going to cherry pick statements and not actually repond to the surrounding points.

I was a Bernie supporter how about you? Still think that is the right way how about you?

I am obviously a Bernie supporter, but only to a point. He made the same mistake you are right now. That is, to tell us the status should remain in place while we try to work from within it. That hasn't worked in 30 years, because that can't work. You must disrupt the process in order to effect change. The Civil Rights movement knew this, which is why they focused on not just protest and statements but making it plainly obvious that they would overwhelm the ballot box and vote only for the people that backed their needs.

I was referring to things that happened before you were born the world did not start yesterday just because you did.

Nor did the world stop after you became an adult. In fact, it was during those years that groundwork for stripping the finacial security was layed without any serious opposition.

Does your history go back to 1968...we were a little busy around here I got to see my first political convention...well the view from grant parks anyway.

I think my prior two responses in this comment make it pretty clear.

you didn't even vote...

Yes I did.

give me a break...

No.

you don't even realize just how fucked you really are...and for what so you can say that you are a pure ...what is sure as hell ain't progressive...because what is about to happen will be the most regressive thing you have witnessed I have see it bad this will be worse.

You better believe I am going call Foobar out for stupid fucking identity politics I am going to call you out for it too. Go fuck yourself in regards to how progressive I am or not.

You seem to think I am some sort of coddled child. I have seen the worst things we have to offer. I grew up in Camden, NJ where I got to watch the government foreclose on houses and provide the inhabitants with checks of $5.00 or less for their homes. I watched the failed drug war tear families apart, and I got to watch Bill Clinton make it worse.

I went to elementary and middle school where I was thrown into SPED classes with people that had to be seat belted into their chairs so they wouldn't hurt themselves or me. I was placed there in first grade because I was bored in class. Due to the policy at the time, the school had a vested interest in keeping as many students in such classes as possible (to the tune of $20,000 per student per year.) Because of this I still struggle to this day with long division or more difficult math because every year we'd start over from basic addition and subtraction despite the fact 50% of the class clearly understood those basics.

I went to highschool were we had race riots weekly.

I can go on about my experiences with failed Democratic policies in my life time and how "bad" I have seen things get. Don't think for a second that you somehow have a monopoly on that understanding just because you are older than me, sir.


kylemcbitch said @ 11:05pm GMT on 14th January
This is my last comment to you, because clearly you are going to cherry pick statements and not actually repond to the surrounding points.

I was a Bernie supporter how about you? Still think that is the right way how about you?

I am obviously a Bernie supporter, but only to a point. He made the same mistake you are right now. That is, to tell us the status should remain in place while we try to work from within it. That hasn't worked in 30 years, because that can't work. You must disrupt the process in order to effect change. The Civil Rights movement knew this, which is why they focused on not just protest and statements but making it plainly obvious that they would overwhelm the ballot box and vote only for the people that backed their needs.

I was referring to things that happened before you were born the world did not start yesterday just because you did.

Nor did the world stop after you became an adult. In fact, it was during those years that groundwork for stripping the finacial security was layed without any serious opposition.

Does your history go back to 1968...we were a little busy around here I got to see my first political convention...well the view from grant parks anyway.

I think my prior two responses in this comment make it pretty clear.

you didn't even vote...

Yes I did.

give me a break...

No.

you don't even realize just how fucked you really are...and for what so you can say that you are a pure ...what is sure as hell ain't progressive...because what is about to happen will be the most regressive thing you have witnessed I have see it bad this will be worse.

You better believe I am going call Foobar out for stupid fucking identity politics I am going to call you out for it too. Go fuck yourself in regards to how progressive I am or not.

You seem to think I am some sort of coddled child. I have seen the worst things we have to offer. I grew up in Camden, NJ where I got to watch the government foreclose on houses and provide the inhabitants with checks of $5.00 or less for their homes. I watched the failed drug war tear families apart, and I got to watch Bill Clinton make it worse.

I went to elementary and middle school where I was thrown into SPED classes with people that had to be seat belted into their chairs so they wouldn't hurt themselves or me. I was placed there in first grade because I was bored in class. Due to the policy at the time, the school had a vested interest in keeping as many students in such classes as possible (to the tune of $20,000 per student per year.) Because of this I still struggle to this day with long division or more difficult math because every year we'd start over from basic addition and subtraction despite the fact 50% of the class clearly understood those basics.

I went to highschool were we had race riots weekly.

I can go on about my experiences with failed Democratic policies in my life time and how "bad" I have seen things get. Don't think for a second that you somehow have a monopoly on that understanding just because you are older than me, sir.

Edit: For those reading this and being confused - he deleted his comment I am quoting here. I will not be deleting mine.



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kylemcbitch said @ 11:02pm GMT on 14th January
This is my last comment to you, because clearly you are going to cherry pick statements and not actually repond to the surrounding points.

I was a Bernie supporter how about you? Still think that is the right way how about you?

I am obviously a Bernie supporter, but only to a point. He made the same mistake you are right now. That is, to tell us the status should remain in place while we try to work from within it. That hasn't worked in 30 years, because that can't work. You must disrupt the process in order to effect change. The Civil Rights movement knew this, which is why they focused on not just protest and statements but making it plainly obvious that they would overwhelm the ballot box and vote only for the people that backed their needs.

I was referring to things that happened before you were born the world did not start yesterday just because you did.

Nor did the world stop after you became an adult. In fact, it was during those years that groundwork for stripping the finacial security was layed without any serious opposition.

Does your history go back to 1968...we were a little busy around here I got to see my first political convention...well the view from grant parks anyway.

I think my prior two responses in this comment make it pretty clear.

you didn't even vote...

Yes I did.

give me a break...

No.

you don't even realize just how fucked you really are...and for what so you can say that you are a pure ...what is sure as hell ain't progressive...because what is about to happen will be the most regressive thing you have witnessed I have see it bad this will be worse.

You better believe I am going call Foobar out for stupid fucking identity politics I am going to call you out for it too. Go fuck yourself in regards to how progressive I am or not.

You seem to think I am some sort of coddled child. I have seen the worst things we have to offer. I grew up in Camden, NJ where I got to watch the government foreclose on houses and provide the inhabitants with checks of $5.00 or less for their homes. I watched the failed drug war tear families apart, and I got to watch Bill Clinton make it worse.

I went to elementary and middle school where I was thrown into SPED classes with people that had to be seat belted into their chairs so they wouldn't hurt themselves or me. I was placed there in first grade because I was bored in class. Due to the policy at the time, the school had a vested interest in keeping as many students in such classes as possible (to the tune of $20,000 per student per year.) Because of this I still struggle to this day with long division or more difficult math because every year we'd start over from basic addition and subtraction despite the fact 50% of the class clearly understood those basics.

I went to highschool were we had race riots weekly.

I can go on about my experiences with failed Democratic policies in my life time and how "bad" I have seen things get. Don't think for a second that you somehow have a monopoly on that understanding just because you are older than me, sir.

Edit: For those reading this and being confused - he deleted his comment I am quoting here. I will not be deleting mine.




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