Saturday, 14 January 2017

Listen Liberal... it is much easier to take over the Democratic party than reinvent the wheel

quote [ Bernie Sanders Is Shifting The Democratic Establishment
His new strategy has Democrats rallying in 40 cities on Sunday.


“For the first time in the modern history of the Democratic party, we’re going to see aggressive outreach efforts,” Sanders told The Huffington Post. “This is a beginning, I hope, of a transformation in the Democratic Party. … Our work has to focus on energizing people where they live and showing them what we are fighting for.” ]

Boy do we owe this guy bigtime.
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kylemcbitch said @ 9:21pm GMT on 14th January
No, people in their right minds think about the future, those who do not are forever subject to the whims of the moment which is schizophrenic at best.

I don't disagree that it would have been nice to ease into change. However, that options wasn't really an option for us, because how American politics work. Had we voted for Hillary, we would not be able to rebuild the party. Instead, we'd have continued to place ourselves on the fringes of it, because when a politician wins an election they inevitably claim a mandate.

That stupid, stupid facet of politics makes it very hard to influence politicians after they have already won. It's only when their party takes a huge defeat do we see change. The Tea Party, while a particularly scary example is a perfect example of this in action.

I had to vote for Patty Murray or a Republican named Vance. I regret voting for Patty Murray right now because at least the Republican would have been honest with me about how they would vote. This scenario has been playing out across this country for 30 years. I should stuck to my guns and refused to vote for Murray due to her super-delegate vote.

You're right, we have to crawl now to get where we want. However, at least we're now facing the right direction. And we will do this without you, don't worry. That was always the plan.


kylemcbitch said @ 9:27pm GMT on 14th January
No, people in their right minds think about the future, those who do not are forever subject to the whims of the moment which is schizophrenic at best. The status quo IS not a better option. It's the same option, just over a glacial time scale.

I don't disagree that it would have been nice to ease into change. However, that options wasn't really an option for us, because how American politics work. Had we voted for Hillary, we would not be able to rebuild the party. Instead, we'd have continued to place ourselves on the fringes of it, because when a politician wins an election they inevitably claim a mandate.

That stupid, stupid facet of politics makes it very hard to influence politicians after they have already won. It's only when their party takes a huge defeat do we see change. The Tea Party, while a particularly scary example is a perfect example of this in action.

I had to vote for Patty Murray or a Republican named Vance. I regret voting for Patty Murray right now because at least the Republican would have been honest with me about how they would vote. This scenario has been playing out across this country for 30 years. I should stuck to my guns and refused to vote for Murray due to her super-delegate vote.

You're right, we have to crawl now to get where we want. However, at least we're now facing the right direction. And we will do this without you, don't worry. That was always the plan.



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kylemcbitch said @ 9:21pm GMT on 14th January
No, people in their right minds think about the future, those who do not are forever subject to the whims of the moment which is schizophrenic at best. The status quo IS not a better option. It's the same option, just over a glacial time scale.

I don't disagree that it would have been nice to ease into change. However, that options wasn't really an option for us, because how American politics work. Had we voted for Hillary, we would not be able to rebuild the party. Instead, we'd have continued to place ourselves on the fringes of it, because when a politician wins an election they inevitably claim a mandate.

That stupid, stupid facet of politics makes it very hard to influence politicians after they have already won. It's only when their party takes a huge defeat do we see change. The Tea Party, while a particularly scary example is a perfect example of this in action.

I had to vote for Patty Murray or a Republican named Vance. I regret voting for Patty Murray right now because at least the Republican would have been honest with me about how they would vote. This scenario has been playing out across this country for 30 years. I should stuck to my guns and refused to vote for Murray due to her super-delegate vote.

You're right, we have to crawl now to get where we want. However, at least we're now facing the right direction. And we will do this without you, don't worry. That was always the plan.




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