Friday, 6 January 2017

U.S. has ID'd Russians who gave hacked emails to WikiLeaks, source says

quote [ A senior U.S. intelligence official with direct knowledge confirmed to NBC News that the report on Russian hacking delivered to President Obama Thursday says the U.S. intercepted communications where senior Russian officials celebrated Donald Trump's win.
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The source described the intelligence about the celebration, first reported by the Washington Post, as a minor part of the overall intelligence report, which makes the case that Russia intervened in the election.
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The staffer, who has been briefed on the classified report, said that anyone who sees the evidence would be convinced. "What you will see is that there were evolving goals over time. At the end, they were trying to elect Trump," they said. ]

We'll see how much competing news can cover this up.

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[by HoZay]
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bbqkink said @ 2:05am GMT on 7th January
You have got it backwards..millennial base doesn't need to be motivated they will take over the party. It almost happened this time. Time does nothing but strengthen them.

"millennial's will be fed up with politics"

Until it starts to really hurt , until things they believe in start to disappear . And if my guess is right it won't be hard to tell who is inflicting the pain. This culture is driven by Facebook and Twitter Trump built all of this on that platform. And when it turns it will bury him.

Right now there is nothing he could do , like he said literally shoot someone nothing, but soon he will be the President. All the bad things will be his bad things.

Right now the Dems need to worry about the Midterms and the direction of the party. Governorships and Statehouses are more important than even the US Senate. Oh they could blow it. If the 3rd way keeps control then it could all go south in a hurry.

Bernie's new job is a big deal, it allows him to set the tone. The election of DNC Chair is extremely important. The third way is trying to say it is a proxy fight for Bernie vs Clinton...well damn right it is.

The biggest problem right now in the Democratic party is the Black voters not the millennials. They have become used to a power structure that is based on race and identity not on economics and class. The real problem there is they are being by the best and strongest politician we have in the party.

I have little doubt that the progressive will take over the party but will the minority voters vote their pocket books or vote with their churches and old alliances. There is a split in party there always has been. But this time the power and energy is not on the side of the third way. Like when the 3rd way took power they did it because they liberals were losing badly. This time I believe the populist wing can take power and the liberals will come along the question remains will minorities join or sit on the sidelines.


bbqkink said @ 2:08am GMT on 7th January
You have got it backwards..millennial base doesn't need to be motivated they will take over the party. It almost happened this time. Time does nothing but strengthen them.

"millennial's will be fed up with politics"

Until it starts to really hurt , until things they believe in start to disappear . And if my guess is right it won't be hard to tell who is inflicting the pain. This culture is driven by Facebook and Twitter Trump built all of this on that platform. And when it turns it will bury him.

Right now there is nothing he could do , like he said literally shoot someone nothing, but soon he will be the President. All the bad things will be his bad things.

Right now the Dems need to worry about the Midterms and the direction of the party. Governorships and Statehouses are more important than even the US Senate. Oh they could blow it. If the 3rd way keeps control then it could all go south in a hurry.

Bernie's new job is a big deal, it allows him to set the tone. The election of DNC Chair is extremely important. The third way is trying to say it is a proxy fight for Bernie vs Clinton...well damn right it is.

The biggest problem right now in the Democratic party is the Black voters not the millennials. They have become used to a power structure that is based on race and identity not on economics and class. The real problem there is they are being led by the best and strongest politician we have in the party.

I have little doubt that the progressive will take over the party but will the minority voters vote their pocket books or vote with their churches and old alliances. There is a split in party there always has been. But this time the power and energy is not on the side of the third way. Like when the 3rd way took power they did it because they liberals were losing badly. This time I believe the populist wing can take power and the liberals will come along the question remains will minorities join or sit on the sidelines.


bbqkink said @ 2:09am GMT on 7th January
You have got it backwards..millennial base doesn't need to be motivated they will take over the party. It almost happened this time. Time does nothing but strengthen them.

"millennial's will be fed up with politics"

Until it starts to really hurt , until things they believe in start to disappear . And if my guess is right it won't be hard to tell who is inflicting the pain. This culture is driven by Facebook and Twitter Trump built all of this on that platform. And when it turns it will bury him.

Right now there is nothing he could do , like he said literally shoot someone nothing, but soon he will be the President. All the bad things will be his bad things.

Right now the Dems need to worry about the Midterms and the direction of the party. Governorships and Statehouses are more important than even the US Senate. Oh they could blow it. If the 3rd way keeps control then it could all go south in a hurry.

Bernie's new job is a big deal, it allows him to set the tone. The election of DNC Chair is extremely important. The third way is trying to say it is a proxy fight for Bernie vs Clinton...well damn right it is.

The biggest problem right now in the Democratic party is the Black voters not the millennials. They have become used to a power structure that is based on race and identity not on economics and class. The real problem there is they are being led by the best and strongest politician we have in the party.

I have little doubt that the progressive will take over the party but will the minority voters vote their pocket books or vote with their churches and old alliances.
There is a split in party there always has been. But this time the power and energy is not on the side of the third way. Like when the 3rd way took power they did it because they liberals were losing badly. This time I believe the populist wing can take power and the liberals will come along the question remains will minorities join or sit on the sidelines.


bbqkink said @ 2:17am GMT on 7th January
You have got it backwards..millennial base doesn't need to be motivated they will take over the party. It almost happened this time. Time does nothing but strengthen them.

"millennial's will be fed up with politics"

Until it starts to really hurt , until things they believe in start to disappear . And if my guess is right it won't be hard to tell who is inflicting the pain. This culture is driven by Facebook and Twitter Trump built all of this on that platform. And when it turns it will bury him.

Right now there is nothing he could do , like he said literally shoot someone nothing, but soon he will be the President. All the bad things will be his bad things.

Right now the Dems need to worry about the Midterms and the direction of the party. Governorships and Statehouses are more important than even the US Senate. Oh they could blow it. If the 3rd way keeps control then it could all go south in a hurry.

Bernie's new job is a big deal, it allows him to set the tone. The election of DNC Chair is extremely important. The third way is trying to say it is a proxy fight for Bernie vs Clinton...well damn right it is.

The biggest problem right now in the Democratic party is the Black voters not the millennials. They have become used to a power structure that is based on race and identity not on economics and class. The real problem there is they are being led by the best and strongest politician we have in the party.

I have little doubt that the progressive will take over the party but will the minority voters vote their pocket books or vote with their churches and old alliances.
There is a split in party there always has been. But this time the power and energy is not on the side of the third way. Like when the 3rd way took power they did it because they liberals were losing badly. This time I believe the populist wing can take power and the liberals will come along the question remains will minorities join or sit on the sidelines.

A complete unknown is what the Mexican American voters will do. The will respond to the populist message but are basically conservative and could split over religious issues. Trump is the Dems best bet with this small but growing demographic.



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bbqkink said @ 2:05am GMT on 7th January
You have got it backwards..millennial base doesn't need to be motivated they will take over the party. It almost happened this time. Time does nothing but strengthen them.

"millennial's will be fed up with politics"

Until it starts to really hurt , until things they believe in start to disappear . And if my guess is right it won't be hard to tell who is inflicting the pain. This culture is driven by Facebook and Twitter Trump built all of this on that platform. And when it turns it will bury him.

Right now there is nothing he could do , like he said literally shoot someone nothing, but soon he will be the President. All the bad things will be his bad things.

Right now the Dems need to worry about the Midterms and the direction of the party. Governorships and Statehouses are more important than even the US Senate. Oh they could blow it. If the 3rd way keeps control then it could all go south in a hurry.

Bernie's new job is a big deal, it allows him to set the tone. The election of DNC Chair is extremely important. The third way is trying to say it is a proxy fight for Bernie vs Clinton...well damn right it is.

The biggest problem right now in the Democratic party is the Black voters not the millennials. They have become used to a power structure that is based on race and identity not on economics and class. The real problem there is they are being led by the best and strongest politician we have in the party.

I have little doubt that the progressive will take over the party but will the minority voters vote their pocket books or vote with their churches and old alliances.
There is a split in party there always has been. But this time the power and energy is not on the side of the third way. Like when the 3rd way took power they did it because they liberals were losing badly. This time I believe the populist wing can take power and the liberals will come along the question remains will minorities join or sit on the sidelines.

A complete unknown is what the Mexican American voters will do. The will respond to the populist message but are basically conservative and could split over religious issues. Trump is the Dems best bet with this small but growing demographic.




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