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Friday, 20 May 2016
quote [ A sexual predator who falsely claimed to be transgender and preyed on women at two Toronto shelters... ]
Because intellectual honesty means acknowledging opposing arguments.
Yes, I'm throwing our resident troll a bone here. Not that I agree with numbers' beliefs, to be clear, but because of the above reason.
Interestingly, I haven't heard anyone on either side reference this case when talking about the NC law, even though (or perhaps because) it predates this whole debate by several years. One bad apple etc., but we can't claim this "never happens" because it clearly did at least once.
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5th Earth said @ 10:28pm GMT on 20th May
Numbers is completely right, though I disagree with the phrasing and the conclusions. The problem that liberals (and I consider myself one) are failing to address is that this is exactly what the transgender community wants: the right to be whatever gender they like, on the strength of nothing more than self-declaration.
The difference between numbers and me is that I don't think there's anything wrong with that, at least not as an ideal.
But, people can and will take advantage of that right, and we can't ignore it. At the very least, we have to acknowledge the fact that some people will use this as an excuse or a means to do wrong, and be prepared to either assume that risk as the price of freedom, or try and find some reasonable compromise.
I'm not sure anything does need to be done: sexual assault laws should cover this already. But we can't pretend it's a non-existent concern.
5th Earth said @ 10:29pm GMT on 20th May
Numbers is completely right, though I disagree with the phrasing and the conclusions. The problem that liberals (and I consider myself one) are failing to address is that this is exactly what the transgender community wants: the right to be whatever gender they like, on the strength of nothing more than self-declaration. And how do you prove if someone is lying?
The difference between numbers and me is that I don't think there's anything wrong with that, at least not as an ideal.
But, people can and will take advantage of that right, and we can't ignore it. At the very least, we have to acknowledge the fact that some people will use this as an excuse or a means to do wrong, and be prepared to either assume that risk as the price of freedom, or try and find some reasonable compromise.
I'm not sure anything does need to be done: sexual assault laws should cover this already. But we can't pretend it's a non-existent concern.
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5th Earth said @ 10:28pm GMT on 20th May [Score:1 Underrated]
Numbers is completely right, though I disagree with the phrasing and the conclusions. The problem that liberals (and I consider myself one) are failing to address is that this is exactly what the transgender community wants: the right to be whatever gender they like, on the strength of nothing more than self-declaration. And how do you prove if someone is lying?
The difference between numbers and me is that I don't think there's anything wrong with that, at least not as an ideal.
But, people can and will take advantage of that right, and we can't ignore it. At the very least, we have to acknowledge the fact that some people will use this as an excuse or a means to do wrong, and be prepared to either assume that risk as the price of freedom, or try and find some reasonable compromise.
I'm not sure anything does need to be done: sexual assault laws should cover this already. But we can't pretend it's a non-existent concern.
