Sunday, 19 August 2018

How to tell you are winning

quote [ Democratic Socialism Derangement Syndrome? Why Hysteria about the Rise of the Progressive Left Misses the Mark

Election pearl-clutching is often related to fears that socialism endangers the wealth and power of America's elites. ]

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

The media is all part of this.

Jake Tapper’s Lazy "Fact Check” Of Medicare-For-All This guy is about to lose his mind about it

I don't think it is political bias in most cases. I think it is the media wanting to be the smart guy and pick the winning side. And they very well may be right...the "centrist" may win again.

The attacks are coming from all around

There's a rumor going around that Bernie Sanders's Medicare-for-All plan would cut provider payments by 40 percent. It's an absolute lie.

More Myths About Bernie’s Medicare-for-All Plan

Being the right thing to do and the most popular thing to do doesn't always win.

The Democratic Insurgency Is Winning the War of Ideas Some of its candidates have won, others have lost. But the movement is succeeding where it counts

But you can feel the powerbase shifting and can sense there is a chance. It is like, there for a second, when I thought that Bernie had a chance to win...it was the closest in my long life that a populist, a real populist could really win. It won't happen today....but they have stopped laughing and the fight is on.

I have let myself get optimistic again.

But there is a part of me that keeps saying...You thought we had a chance with Bobby and we got Nixon...and you thought we had a chance with Bernie...and we got trump...then the bigger part of me says .SHUT THE HELL UP!

++++++++++++++The other side of the coin+++++++++

This is worthy of a post of its own.

What happens when the shit hits the fan? Trump will scream Rigged from the mountain tops...Even better Russian interference...see I told you was them all along.

“Rigged Witch Hunt,” Meet Trump’s “Red Wave”

[SFW] [politics] [+3 Good]
[by bbqkink]
<-- Entry / Comment History

3456 said @ 7:18pm GMT on 19th August

To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.

Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.”

Or more distinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.


3456 said @ 7:18pm GMT on 19th August

Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.”

Or more distinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.


3456 said @ 7:20pm GMT on 19th August
Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.” None of which is terribly germane to my post - which is simply that if you want a second Trump term, push the Dems further left and you'll get it.

Or more distinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.


3456 said @ 7:21pm GMT on 19th August
Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.”

Or more distinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.

None of which is terribly germane to my post - which is simply that if you want a second Trump term, push the Dems further left and you'll get it.


3456 said @ 7:26pm GMT on 19th August
Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.”

Or more succinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.

None of which is terribly germane to my post - which is simply that if you want a second Trump term, push the Dems further left and you'll get it.



<-- Entry / Current Comment
3456 said @ 7:18pm GMT on 19th August [Score:-3 Boring]
Yes, we determined it a while back, when I pointed out the term was meaningless (Like “Democratic Pizza” or “Democratic Conservatism”) To counter my claim, Hugh E linked to self-contradicting and mutually exclusive definitions, thereby proving my point, and putting an end to the conversation.

Now you’re at it again, linking to this tripe, which is every bit as useless in defining the term:

“Democratic socialists believe government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy.”

Or more succinctly, “Democratic socialists believe in social democracy.”

Sorry for implying it was meaningless.

Rank bullshit was the term I was grasping for.

None of which is terribly germane to my post - which is simply that if you want a second Trump term, push the Dems further left and you'll get it.




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