Sunday, 19 August 2018

How to tell you are winning

quote [ Democratic Socialism Derangement Syndrome? Why Hysteria about the Rise of the Progressive Left Misses the Mark

Election pearl-clutching is often related to fears that socialism endangers the wealth and power of America's elites. ]

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

The media is all part of this.

Jake Tapper’s Lazy "Fact Check” Of Medicare-For-All This guy is about to lose his mind about it

I don't think it is political bias in most cases. I think it is the media wanting to be the smart guy and pick the winning side. And they very well may be right...the "centrist" may win again.

The attacks are coming from all around

There's a rumor going around that Bernie Sanders's Medicare-for-All plan would cut provider payments by 40 percent. It's an absolute lie.

More Myths About Bernie’s Medicare-for-All Plan

Being the right thing to do and the most popular thing to do doesn't always win.

The Democratic Insurgency Is Winning the War of Ideas Some of its candidates have won, others have lost. But the movement is succeeding where it counts

But you can feel the powerbase shifting and can sense there is a chance. It is like, there for a second, when I thought that Bernie had a chance to win...it was the closest in my long life that a populist, a real populist could really win. It won't happen today....but they have stopped laughing and the fight is on.

I have let myself get optimistic again.

But there is a part of me that keeps saying...You thought we had a chance with Bobby and we got Nixon...and you thought we had a chance with Bernie...and we got trump...then the bigger part of me says .SHUT THE HELL UP!

++++++++++++++The other side of the coin+++++++++

This is worthy of a post of its own.

What happens when the shit hits the fan? Trump will scream Rigged from the mountain tops...Even better Russian interference...see I told you was them all along.

“Rigged Witch Hunt,” Meet Trump’s “Red Wave”

[SFW] [politics] [+3 Good]
[by bbqkink@1:22amGMT]

Comments

steele said @ 3:17pm GMT on 19th Aug [Score:4]
lilmookieesquire said @ 5:00pm GMT on 19th Aug
But fuck krugman tho.
steele said @ 5:05pm GMT on 19th Aug
That's the funny part. R/neoliberals or whatever were going crazy over it.
bbqkink said[1] @ 2:30am GMT on 19th Aug [Score:3 Funny]
So, Anonymous has declared war on ISIS... ironic that 72 virgins are now attacking the terrorists

lilmookieesquire said @ 3:23am GMT on 19th Aug
Ah the classics. Nice B.B.
steele said @ 3:17pm GMT on 19th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
Oh, and fuck WaPo.
Bruceski said @ 3:52am GMT on 19th Aug
Then you ignore them.
bbqkink said @ 6:29pm GMT on 19th Aug
Rudy Giuliani on Sunday gave another eyebrow-raising TV interview, telling NBC’s Chuck Todd on Sunday he’s concerned about special counsel Robert Mueller interviewing President Donald Trump because the “truth isn’t the truth.”


Rudy Giuliani Stuns NBC’s Chuck Todd: ‘Truth Isn’t Truth’ “Mr. Mayor, do you realize... this is going to become a bad meme,” Todd told the president’s lawyer.
bbqkink said @ 1:47am GMT on 20th Aug
steele said[1] @ 8:04pm GMT on 20th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
Like I said. Fuck Jake Tapper.
hellboy said @ 10:33am GMT on 21st Aug
He's getting taken apart in the comments. It's brutal.
steele said @ 12:08pm GMT on 21st Aug
Doesn't make up for the damage these assholes are causing though.
steele said @ 12:02pm GMT on 20th Aug
"admits"
Ussmak said @ 4:21pm GMT on 20th Aug
Isn't this the same exact shit that was said about Bernie "steamrolling" Hillary in the 2016 primary? I think that same exact quote was used by you then as well, bbqkink.

You guys sure did a lot of winning then. So much winning in fact in made me write off the democratic party entirely. What a victory!
steele said @ 5:06pm GMT on 20th Aug [Score:3 Underrated]
Literally nobody on this site said that. At no point whatsoever did anyone on this site declare or imply that Bernie was a sure thing in the primaries. It was often the opposite, in fact. This is why I downmod you half the time, because sometimes you make coherent arguments regarding the corruption and hypocrisy of US politics, and other times you're living in fucking lala land.
bbqkink said @ 7:41pm GMT on 20th Aug
By Steve Benen

In early-November 2017, there was still some question as to whether the Republican tax plan would pass. Polls showed strong public opposition to the GOP blueprint, and some vulnerable Republicans admitted they were nervous about supporting hefty tax breaks for the wealthy and big corporations.

But much of the party also faced pressure from rich donors who warned the party not to fail. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who was later indicted by the FBI over alleged insider trading, admitted at the time, “My donors are basically saying, ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again.’”

And while it was jarring to hear a member of Congress speak so candidly about meeting the demands of campaign contributors, it was also a precursor of things to come. Republicans, of course, did pass those tax breaks, and because they “got it done,” wealthy beneficiaries are returning the favor by opening their wallets. The New York Times reported:

Republicans are struggling to make the $1.5 trillion Trump tax cuts a winning issue with voters in the midterm congressional elections, but the cuts are helping the party in another crucial way: unlocking tens of millions of dollars in campaign donations from the wealthy conservatives and corporate interests that benefited handsomely from it.

Billionaires and corporations that reaped millions of dollars in tax cuts are pumping some of that windfall into the Congressional Leadership Fund, a “super PAC” closely aligned with Speaker Paul D. Ryan that is flooding the airwaves and front porches of swing congressional districts with increasingly sharp attacks on the Democratic candidates vying to wrest control of the House.

It’s quite a cycle, isn’t it? Republican candidates run, assuring voters they’ll look out for the interests of working people. Those candidates become Republican officeholders, who use their offices to help the rich and powerful. The rich and powerful then show their appreciation for their GOP benefactors by rewarding them with generous campaign contributions.

And Republicans then use that money to run commercials that assure voters they’ll look out for the interests of working people.

For the donors, the amount they’re giving back to Republicans is a small fraction of what Republicans gave them in the form of tax cuts. From the Times’ report:

The fund’s donors include the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, who has given $30 million, and whose company, Las Vegas Sands, reported a nearly $700 million windfall from the tax law earlier this year; Timothy Mellon, chairman and majority owner of Pan Am Systems, a privately held collection of companies that includes rail, aviation and marketing services, who has contributed $24 million; Valero Services, a Texas oil refining company that reported a $1.9 billion benefit from tax cuts in the first quarter, and which has given $1.5 million; and a collection of other corporations, executives and financial fund managers.

Around Thanksgiving last year, Donald Trump spoke at an event in Missouri and declared, in reference to him and his party, “Our focus is on helping the folks who work in the mail rooms and machine shops of America – the plumbers, the carpenters, the cops, the teachers, the truck drivers, the pipe fitters – the people that like me best. Actually, the rich people actually don’t like me, which is sort of interesting. And that’s fine. You know what? I like that trade.”

Nine months later, it looks like plenty of rich people are quite pleased after all.


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