Thursday, 29 June 2017

Ohio city council member wants 911 to ignore drug overdose calls

quote [ Dan Picard, who serves on the city council of Middletown, Ohio, first suggested last week that the city implement a three-strikes-and-you’re-out policy when it comes to responding to 911 calls for overdoses. ]

Maybe they could burn down all the houses to save the fire department some money too.
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[by arrowhen@9:30pmGMT]

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HoZay said @ 10:02pm GMT on 29th Jun
I don't think it's about saving some money, it sounds more like being overwhelmed. This is a very fucked-up problem to have. They're going to have to deny service when they run out of money, but you can't expect an EMT to say "no" to someone until it's all gone, no matter what the council votes to do.
Dienes said @ 11:44pm GMT on 29th Jun
This isn't going to save money - the policy is fucking RIFE with the opportunity for lawsuits.

This isn't going to save time - if the dispatcher hangs up they will call again and again.

This isn't even going to reduce the number of drug addicts - even if you successfully kill off all the (mostly impoverished minority people) addicted to drugs, since you are doing NOTHING to help the conditions that lead to the addiction, new people will just take their place. To extend HoZay's analogy, its letting all the houses burn down hoping that will solve the limited resources of the fire department, but not even trying to identify the arsonist setting them because those houses deserved to be burned, really.
Mythtyn said @ 12:58am GMT on 30th Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
(mostly impoverished minority people)? Almost all the heroin addicts i see are white.
biblebeltdrunk said @ 2:55am GMT on 30th Jun [Score:2 Informative]
from usnews.com -
The average user of heroin has changed drastically in the last decade. In 2000, black Americans aged 45-64 had the highest death rate for drug poisoning involving heroin. Now, white people aged 18-44 have the highest rate. The share of people who say they have used heroin in the past year is actually decreasing for non-whites. Heroin has taken hold of the white suburbs, which has prompted more attention for what is now being called a " health problem."

It's nice that heroin epidemic is getting more attention, maybe it could lead to some actual help from the federal government. Just a shame that it didn't get the attention it needed when it was non-whites that were most affected.
satanspenis666 said @ 2:35am GMT on 30th Jun
Addiction does not know race. It affects all people equally.
Dienes said @ 3:01am GMT on 30th Jun
Addiction disproportionately affects those closer to the poverty line. Tell me, who is disproportionately represented in that group? I'm p sure it isn't white people.

Anyone can become an addict but minorities are put in an environment that creates addiction far, far more often.
HoZay said @ 4:21am GMT on 30th Jun [Score:2]
But this time, it's mostly white people, else it would be a crime problem instead of a health problem.
mwooody said @ 10:59am GMT on 30th Jun
Absolutely not true. There are many racial groups that have shown to be highly susceptible to addictive substances or behaviors. See: Native Americas and gambling/alcohol.
3333 said @ 1:32pm GMT on 30th Jun

They gave us cigarettes, we gave them booze. Seems fair.
Who do we blame for the smack?


arrowhen said @ 3:56pm GMT on 30th Jun [Score:2 laz0r]
spleen23 said @ 5:09pm GMT on 30th Jun
Wouldn't these new replacements you are talking about have become addicts anyways? It's not like the dealers are going to deny them drugs because their area already has it quota.
TM said @ 2:08pm GMT on 30th Jun
Expand this logic and it collapses almost immediately. How about emergency responders not going to obese people for the third heart attack? Or not responding to lifelong smokers' third acute breathing problem? Or a woman's third emergency call for a problem pregnancy? Or an old person's third fall?

The whole "people should take responsibility for their choices" thing resonates with me, but it isn't the right yardstick for emergency medical services.
maximumtodd said @ 10:51pm GMT on 30th Jun
If they want to cut down on repeat overdoses the first step is to stop purchasing naloxone.

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