Friday, 16 May 2014
quote [ Rhinehart compiled a list of thirty-five nutrients required for survival. Then, instead of heading to the grocery store, he ordered them off the Internet?mostly in powder or pill form?and poured everything into a blender, with some water. The result, a slurry of chemicals, looked like gooey lemonade. Then, he told me, ?I started living on it.? ]
This is VERY interesting and I'm going to order the ingredients and mix this together in the next week.
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LurkerAtTheGate said @ 7:02pm GMT on 16th May
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I signed up for the first production run of Soylent - should be getting a couple week supply (I ordered 1 week for me and 1 week for wife back when they planned to separate recipes based on nutritional needs by sex). I enjoy cooking, but I was curious. I've experimented with various factors in body chemistry, and Soylent seemed like it might be a good baseline during an experiment, or handy if I don't want to expend effort to cook.
Given I signed up in early 2013, and got an email recently that they've started shipping, I'm really not sure when the hell it'll come in. If you do try it, be really careful with the DIY recipes. I considered it and heard some real horror stories -- ingredients that contained more/less than labelled, someone forgetting a nutrient that was vital, etc. |
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Onix said @ 7:08pm GMT on 16th May
Quote: "be really careful with the DIY recipes. I considered it and heard some real horror stories -- ingredients that contained more/less than labelled, someone forgetting a nutrient that was vital, etc."
Exactly why I think I will better wait for a commercial product. BTW, are they doing animal tests? Not that I like the idea that much, but I would really like to know if a mice has some nutritional problems, brain damage or something of the sort before I eat the same thing it did. If it grows another tail I am fine with it, I always wanted a tail (just kidding). |
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mechanical contrivance said @ 7:24pm GMT on 16th May
Yes, there are animal tests. Humans, to be exact.
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TStryker said @ 8:02pm GMT on 16th May
I did a bunch of research and found this guy to be the most knowledged. So I'm going from his recipe base and then altering it slightly for a low carb based diet. But I'm only planning on using this for 1-2 meals a day. Not all 3 meals.
http://www.cookingfor20.com/2013/06/18/hacker-school-soylent-recipe/ |
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TStryker said @ 8:05pm GMT on 16th May
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rhesusmonkey said @ 1:13am GMT on 17th May
http://robrhinehart.com/ - the original; I've been following this for a while.
I am interested as well to try but so far is on my bucket list. Cheaper than Ramen noodles, better for you. |
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blacksun said @ 7:18pm GMT on 16th May
Please make a post with your findings!
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conception said @ 1:21am GMT on 19th May
Yeah, I also am expecting a first run. We should ping each other in a month and see if we're dead or not.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 10:01pm GMT on 16th May
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While I understand the concept- I really hate this idea. This seems like the worst possible way to tackle the problem of food expenses. I can see this being fed to prisoners and poor people in a "you don't deserve real food" manner and served via the matrix (the first movie ) style.
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arrowhen said @ 11:13pm GMT on 16th May
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Sorry, solid food is for EBT Platinum(tm) cardholders only, please take your bucket and proceed to the back of the Nutri-Glug line.
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TStryker said @ 11:54pm GMT on 16th May
After reading the article, I wanted to try it. I'm huge into food and I cook pretty much everyday. I experiment a lot in the kitchen and I see this as an experiment.
There's been days where I don't have the time to make my breakfast before heading out and I'm pretty sick my my go to which is nuts. Also, being in NYC, sometimes I'm caught in the city and my options in the area are fast food/food cart food or sit down. If I don't have time for a sit down, then I have option and can spend more money on my favorite meal: dinner. I really appreciate food, but this covers me when I just need to eat something for the sake of keeping my body functioning. |
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lilmookieesquire said @ 5:05am GMT on 20th May
I think it's great to try.
It's the tang of our modern age! |
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mechanical contrivance said @ 1:01pm GMT on 20th May
Maybe I can make a Soylent pie.
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robotroadkill said @ 1:21am GMT on 17th May
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My only concern about it would be if we don't know enough about metabolic pathways etc, and, In the long term, the recipe is missing something crucial, and you slowly get dumber without realizing it (or some other bad effect). I doubt anyone would eat this exclusively for months or years though.
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GordonGuano said @ 3:02am GMT on 17th May
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There are autistic kids that live off goldfish crackers, chicken nuggets, ketchup, and Kool-Aid. Soylent has to be better than that.
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Onix said @ 11:39pm GMT on 18th May
I agree. It could be used as a meal supplement or substitute, not a full fledged susbtitute for foor. I know I would try to mix some fruit like guava or banana, and a couple of eggs, if the flavour allows it. Maybe even some yogurth.
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cb361 said @ 12:23am GMT on 19th May
[Score:1 Funny]
Summoning the great Yogurth is dangerous. One mistake in the ritual and he will consign your soul to the Gug'burz.
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XregnaR said @ 6:37pm GMT on 16th May
When you start craving brainz, please post a warning here before shuffling off to the apocalypse.
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Onix said @ 7:05pm GMT on 16th May
Sounds like sci-fi. But I would try it for a change as a commercial product. Specially with Vanilla, Strawberry or Capuccino taste. I think it could be useful for those long days at the office, cleaner than spilling beans over the keyboard (literally).
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vintuk said @ 7:11pm GMT on 16th May
If it's not PEOPLE, I am not eating it.
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blacksun said @ 7:20pm GMT on 16th May
Whole grain oat flour
Flaxseed Meal Almond meal/flour GNC Mega Men® Sport - Vanilla Bean Masa harina Coconut flour Whey Protein Isolate 90% Powder (Unflavored) Hempseed Oil Oil, olive, salad or cooking Oil, soybean, salad or cooking Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein Protein Oil, wheat germ Iodised Salt Potassium Citrate Bob's Red Mill 10 Grain Flour Choline bitartrate NOW Foods Calcium/magnesium 1000/500 mg Hemp protein powder Wheat Grass Powder Garbanzo beans flour Green pea flour Tapioca flour Methylsulfonylmethane |
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blacksun said @ 7:32pm GMT on 16th May
My mistake, This is not the Soylent ingredient list, it's someone's homebrew list.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 7:26pm GMT on 16th May
I'll order some after I read some reviews of the 1.0 formula.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 2:40am GMT on 17th May
On second thought, the price of Soylent just went up. It was already expensive, now it's no longer worth it.
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blacksun said @ 7:31pm GMT on 16th May
Whoops, that was someone's own version, here's the ingredient list for "soylent 1.0"
Oat Flour, Vitamin and Mineral Blend [Potassium (as Potassium gluconate), Calcium (as calcium car- bonate), Choline Bitartrate, Magnesium (as magnesium oxide), Vitamin C (as ascor- bic acid), Zinc (as zinc sulfate), Vitamin E (as dl-al- pha-tocopheryl acetate, Vitamin B3 (as niacinamide), Copper (as copper gluco- nate), Vitamin B5 (as calci- um D-pantothenate), Man- ganese (as manganese sulfate), Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCL), Vitamin B2 (as riboflavin), Vitamin B1 (as thiamin HCL), Vitamin A (as palmitate), Chromium (as chromium chloride), Folic Acid, Biotin, Iodine (as potassium iodide), Molyb- denum (as sodium molyb- date), Selenium (as sodium selenite), Vitamin K1 (as phytonadione), Vitamin D2 (as ergocalciferol), Vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin)], Gum Acacia, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Artificial Flavors, Xan- than Gum, Sucralose. |
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Headlessfriar said @ 7:46pm GMT on 16th May
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Is Sucralose the generic name for Splenda? That shit gives me a nasty headache. I got blindsided when they changed the recipe for a V8 that went from sugar to Splenda without making that obvious on the label.
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Bruceski said @ 8:34pm GMT on 16th May
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There's a few different artificial sweeteners.
--Aspartame has a bitter aftertaste and gives me the shits. --Stevia just tastes weird, I can't put my finger on it. --Sucralose (Splenda) lingers. I had a mouthful of bottled water that turned out to be sweetened with sucralose, and for three days I couldn't taste anything but "sweet". I've steered clear of the stuff since. So I'll stick with sugar, thankyouverymuch. |
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Onix said @ 8:50pm GMT on 16th May
Well. fructuose (fruit sugar) and brown sugar (unrefined cane sugar) are considered healthier than refined white sugar. I really like the taste of brown sugar with my morning coffee and milk.
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Bruceski said @ 9:20pm GMT on 16th May
Yeah, brown sugar makes me feel so good. It's delicious.
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mechavolt said @ 9:58pm GMT on 16th May
[Score:1 WTF]
Pssh, amateurs. Fuck sugar, I put MSG in everything.
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Onix said @ 9:04pm GMT on 18th May
[Score:1 Funsightful]
¿The Michael Schenker Group? ¿A hard rock meal?
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arrowhen said @ 9:08pm GMT on 18th May
U Funny, Onix!
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mechanical contrivance said @ 2:41am GMT on 17th May
I use Republican tears. Nothing is sweeter.
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arrowhen said @ 7:53pm GMT on 16th May
It doesn't give me headaches, but sometimes my face hurts from grimacing so hard at the horrible taste. It's especially bad in drinks that have both sugar and fake sugar -- who the hell thought that was a good idea?
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Onix said @ 8:06pm GMT on 16th May
No, sucralose is a type of natural sugar. I think it's fruit sugar. Here in Mexico they use it on Coke, that's why it has a different taste than the US product and some people import it. But it is considered safer than refined cane sugar.
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arrowhen said @ 8:10pm GMT on 16th May
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Sucralose (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose) is an artificial sweetener.
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Onix said @ 8:16pm GMT on 16th May
Oh. Yes. Sorry. I was confused with fructuose. Thanks Arrowhen.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 5:03am GMT on 20th May
You're right about coke though "hetcha en Mexico"
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lalanda said @ 5:25am GMT on 20th May
Hetcha?
Hecho, surely. |
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dave said @ 7:50pm GMT on 16th May
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SnappyNipples said @ 12:12am GMT on 17th May
I ordered a pizza today.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 2:43am GMT on 17th May
I read the news today.
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Bruceski said @ 3:54am GMT on 17th May
About a lucky man who made the grade?
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arrowhen said @ 4:53am GMT on 17th May
Oh, boy.
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felix said @ 5:17pm GMT on 17th May
"his food costs had dropped from four hundred and seventy dollars a month to fifty."
that's absolutely ridiculous. i'm a fatass who eats way too much - including a ton of fast food - and my food costs are nowhere even close to that. even in california it's gotta be possible to do way better. it certainly was when i lived there. safeway was super duper cheap, about the only thing in california that was. |
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arrowhen said @ 6:57pm GMT on 17th May
I think it's possible that you might be spending more on food than you think you are. $470 a month is only $15 a day. It's really not that hard for a busy person who isn't actively trying to keep their food costs down to spend that much or more. Hell, if you grab a latte and a muffin on your way to work, that's half your daily food budget right there.
It's certainly possible to eat cheap if you put enough planning and effort into it -- it wasn't that many years ago that I would sometimes feed two adults and three cats on $15 a week, because that's all I had -- but it's really easy for your food costs to creep up much higher than you planned, especially if you're in a position where you don't have to agonize over every dollar you spend. |
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GordonGuano said @ 7:15pm GMT on 17th May
It'd also be way easy to spend $470/month on food if you shop at Whole Paycheck, er Foods. I could drop a C-note there on sauerkraut alone.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 4:27am GMT on 18th May
A one month supply of Soylent sells for $300 or $255 if you get a subscription. I spend around $45 a month on food and it's actual food.
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HoZay said @ 6:46am GMT on 18th May
Mostly beans and rice?
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mechanical contrivance said @ 1:23pm GMT on 18th May
Beans, rice, frozen vegetables, salsa, bread, peanut butter, cookies, hot dogs, ramen. That sort of thing. It's not hard to eat well very cheaply. And my doctor says I'm perfectly healthy.
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felix said @ 8:31am GMT on 18th May
$255/month is crazy (and $300 is crazier!) considering it says right in the article that he was feeding himself on his concoction for $50 month. nice little markup he's got there!
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Bob Denver said @ 8:16pm GMT on 18th May
He didn't have to pay insurance when it was only for himself.
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felix said @ 8:21am GMT on 18th May
i don't quite live paycheck to paycheck but it's pretty close. i'm very well aware of how much i'm spending on everything and food is definitely nowhere close to $15/day. if it were i wouldn't be able to pay for rent and car insurance and gas and whatever. and i'm not even trying to be especially frugal like the guy in the article apparently was, eating ramen and quesadillas and corn dogs. if he really was spending $470/month just to feed himself he was eating a lot more than that and was wasting money on expensive crap he didn't need.
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gdoube said @ 9:56am GMT on 21st May
Someone post the file so I can whip up a batch on my 3d printer.
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