Wednesday, 17 June 2015
quote [ Scientists had long suspected that humans were taxing the world?s underground water supply, but the NASA data was the first detailed assessment to demonstrate that major aquifers were indeed struggling to keep pace with demands from agriculture, growing populations, and industries such as mining. ]
That's just fucking great.
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icpenners said[2] @ 7:13am GMT on 17th Jun
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First you warn that sea levels are rising, now you complain you're running out of water. Get your stories straight, liberaltards.
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Abdul Alhazred said @ 7:17am GMT on 17th Jun
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Jesus. For a second there I thought he really had arrived.
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HoZay said @ 8:57am GMT on 17th Jun
It was him all along.
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Longhair said @ 12:28pm GMT on 17th Jun
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Actually it was me.
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Abdul Alhazred said @ 6:54am GMT on 17th Jun
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Here in UAE desalination is actually a byproduct of power generation. They use the seawater to cool the exhaust steam from the generators, gradually raising it to boiling and go from there. They then run the distilled water through a bunch of crushed rock to give it some mineral content before piping it out as drinking water.
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Abdul Alhazred said @ 6:56am GMT on 17th Jun
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I hear that in California they're starting to go to the "toilet to tap" closed loop water system. While this sounds good on paper, the thing no one is talking about is all the pharmaceuticals the flush through peoples' bodies, everything from psych meds to birth control pills. After a few cycles through the population should show some really interesting effects.
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HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 7:50am GMT on 17th Jun
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OutdoorRudy said @ 4:45pm GMT on 17th Jun
I never thought of that. Does purifying water get rid of those? I would assume boiling but then again some chemicals could possible travel with, maybe?
At work, can someone research this and report back to SE for this evenings 3 beer rants. |
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Abdul Alhazred said @ 12:18pm GMT on 18th Jun
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I think this is a reasonably legitimate source. In 2011 a Harvard publication stated that there are pharmaceuticals in the drinking water.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/drugs-in-the-water I happen to have worked in water treatment and wastewater treatment at one point, and I don't think there is really any way to truly get rid of the chemicals. Wastewater treatment is mainly concerned with taking the solids out of the water, which means that the water is separated out, filtered and sterilized somewhat, sometimes using UV. That won't affect dissolved chemicals. Water treatment does essentially the same, but adds chlorimides (as I recall) to kill bacteria. Again, I doubt that would have much effect on the compounds. But I am no expert. I would hope that California would have hired people who are to determine if this was going to be a major problem, and that they weren't paid off to skew the results in favor of the closed cycle. |
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captainstubing said @ 3:41pm GMT on 20th Jun
Personally, I wouldn't use the phrase "looks good on paper" when discussing turning effluent into drinking water.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 1:42am GMT on 17th Jun
This doesn't bother me. There's a lot of waste to eliminate. The future could go towards aquaponics and enclosed systems. Eventually we'll have to probably invest in desalinization. There's been talk about water becoming the new oil and squabbles in North America between Canada and the US. I think it's quite interesting- but this isn't really new-new. The general idea has been out there for a long time.
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sanepride said @ 3:07am GMT on 17th Jun
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Stillsuits FTW.
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HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 3:08am GMT on 17th Jun
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Watch the lucky ol' Middle East wind up with all the Sandworms...
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lilmookieesquire said @ 4:04am GMT on 17th Jun
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US.
California. A Desert State. |
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Jodan said @ 5:33am GMT on 17th Jun
Always though those were cool i think we are a long way from fremen but it would be nice for that not to happen.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 7:26am GMT on 17th Jun
Would probably be good for space
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HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 1:47am GMT on 17th Jun
So... good thing we're pumping so much frack-water underground to get oil, huh?
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MadMarchHarris said @ 5:02am GMT on 17th Jun
http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/05/11/california-water-you-doing/
Fracking is barely even a blip in human water usage. And even if it we got to the point where we were so desperate for water not a drop could be wasted we could just extract and purify the water. It doesn't just get left in the ground during the fracking process. |
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HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 6:51am GMT on 17th Jun
My point was more to the chemicals being used in the water. Besides, it's kind of hard to "purify" something when the stuff going into it is a "trade secret."
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MadMarchHarris said[1] @ 4:58pm GMT on 17th Jun
Some of those numbers are a complete joke. 780 gallons of some form of lead over a period of 4 years? I could physically carry more lead than that to a well by hand in less time if I made a mission of it. And this is all based on the assumption that the chemicals are going into the water table which even the EPA admits there's no proven cases of it happening.
My biggest concern with fracking isn't the process being done correctly. It's sloppy set-up and corner cutting that I would be worried about. Nobody needs any help conjuring up gigantic oil company fuck-ups or their consequences. But they're the result of industry failure not a faulty process. |
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HoZay said @ 7:48pm GMT on 17th Jun
A process that includes industry doing the right thing is a faulty process.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 8:22am GMT on 17th Jun
I thought the issue was possibly contaminating the ground water.
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OutdoorRudy said @ 4:43pm GMT on 17th Jun
Thats exactly the issue. You add chemicals that are trade secrets that then leech into the water table.
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MadMarchHarris said @ 4:51pm GMT on 17th Jun
Which would be a problem if fracking and aquifers took place on even close to the same strata. Most aquifers are within a few hundred feet of the surface. Natural gas wells from kilometers down. Fracking can force methane from lower strata into drinking water but it can be vented very easily.
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robotroadkill said @ 3:22am GMT on 17th Jun
Oh that's just whining from this entitled Millenial generation who think just because they're born there should be resources left over for them.
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arrowhen said @ 3:35am GMT on 17th Jun
Luckily, snake people don't need as much water.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 4:06am GMT on 17th Jun
It's like, what, 4 quarts a day- but that includes the liquids from digesting your enemies.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 5:55am GMT on 17th Jun
Right? What the fuck did they ever do to earn that water?
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