Sunday, 29 July 2018

Democrats Are Wrong About Republicans. Republicans Are Wrong About Democrats.

quote [ The defining divide in American politics is probably between Republicans and Democrats. It encapsulates all our other divides — by race, education, religion and more — and it’s growing. This partisan divide is such a big part of people’s political identities, in fact, that it’s reinforced simply by “negative partisanship,” or loyalty to a party because you don’t like the other party. ]

"And this is why I hate you, And how I understand, That no-one ever knows or loves another." - Robert Smith

It's not just the Coastal Elites who don't know what's on the other side of the divide.

Perry Bacon Jr of Five Thirty-Eight discussed the phenomenon with On The Media.

Who Do We Think We Are?

The category is People, not Politics, because there is very little policy, if any, when it comes to partisanship for most. It's identity politics all around.
[SFW] [people] [+4 Insightful]
[by Hugh E.@5:52amGMT]


Menchi said @ 7:29am GMT on 29th Jul [Score:2 Underrated]
The data presented here is kind of meaningless unless the respondents were first told what percentage of the US population each particular group represented. It doesn't demonstrate that members of each political party have misleading ideas about the other, so much as simply "it's hard to guess what fraction of the population belongs to an arbitrary group".
the circus said @ 9:01am GMT on 29th Jul
Humorously, it implies Republicans think about 20% of the population isn't straight. And that Democrats must massively inflate the amount of people they think make more than 250K.
lilmookieesquire said[3] @ 11:04am GMT on 29th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
For the 250k question, that fits other data, that suggests Americans highly overestimate the spread of wealth.

^that data is 2010 at the latest, so it's only gotten worse.
bbqkink said @ 12:22am GMT on 30th Jul
Yea they do by a lot.

Wealth Inequality in America
ComposerNate said[2] @ 8:02am GMT on 29th Jul [Score:2]
Republican religious philosophy: a lie is only judged on its intention of result

There is no Russian collusion. Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Santa will put coal in your stocking. Jesus knows your thoughts. Give us money because they are evil. Clinton is morally ruinous with his intern blowjob, Trump is good because now his treason propagandist is saying he wanted to write a check to buy rights through a shell corporation to bury the story he had previously denied of one of the many women he was sexing early in his third marriage.
knumbknutz said[1] @ 1:47pm GMT on 29th Jul [Score:2]
I am starting to realize that the choice of the word "collusion" was a genius semantics choice by trump and his allies. That's why I quit using it. This is a legal frame carefully chosen which there is no way to legally prove it. It's an abstract concept akin to proving eye-contact from witness testimony, during a trial.

Team Mueller is looking at conspiracy. This is why none of the indictments so far have collusion in the charging documents and why they never will...every time somebody is charged - a quick "see there is no collusion!" tweet comes forth from the WH. Imagine that.

Every time, the media, lets trump get by using the "no collusion" line they are doing his bidding. Gotta give the guy his props for successfully hijacking the narrative on this.

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