Monday, 9 July 2018

Tomi Lahren: Pushing to Overturn Roe v. Wade Would Be a 'Big Mistake'

quote [ I’m going to say something some of my fellow conservatives and Trump supporters may not like. But I must be true to my beliefs, whatever the party line. ]

TL;DR "Let's stick to fucking with minorities' rights and not stuff that affects me directly"

Full article in extended so you don't have to go to Foxnews yourselves

Tomi Lahren: Pushing to Overturn Roe v. Wade Would Be a 'Big Mistake'

'We lose when we start messing with social issues.'

I’m going to say something some of my fellow conservatives and Trump supporters may not like. But I must be true to my beliefs, whatever the party line.

Time now, for my Final Thoughts.

Pressing for a Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade would be a big mistake.

Yes, the new high court vacancy is a huge opportunity for conservative values and principles, I get it. And I understand the passion behind the pro-life movement.

Tomi Lahren: 'Dems Want Open Borders', They Should 'Just Come Out and Admit It'

But to use conservatives’ new-found power and pull to challenge a decision that -- according to a new Quinnipiac poll -- most Americans support, would be a mistake.

This president is winning for the American people on the economy, foreign policy, and tax reform. These are areas that benefit ALL Americans, regardless of religion or social beliefs.

If we continue to focus on those things - and immigration - we’ll sail into 2020 with all three government branches in our control. That’s how we get things done for the American people. That’s how we win.

Let’s go after sanctuary cities, and push for voter ID laws. We lose when we start messing with social issues.

Consider this: When Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch got to his confirmation hearings with the Senate Judiciary Committee, he was grilled on the so-called “Trump litmus test” on abortion. He responded by telling Sen. Lindsey Graham he would have “walked out the door” if Trump had asked him to overturn Roe.

Even if conservatives decide to go for the Roe v. Wade jugular, it’s unlikely to succeed. Legal tradition makes it harder to overturn a past decision - unless there are strong grounds for doing so.

And a departure from precedent like Roe - which has since been upheld by other cases - is even harder to come by. During his hearing, Justice Gorsuch made a point of noting the decision had already been reaffirmed several times.

Do we really want to fight for this, alienate Democrats, moderates, and libertarians, all to lose in the end anyway? That’s a risk I don’t think is worth taking.

I’m saying this as someone who would personally choose life, but also feels it’s not the government’s place to dictate. This isn’t a black and white issue and I would never judge anyone in that position.

I believe the way to encourage someone to choose life is to treat her with compassion, understanding and love, not government regulation.

Let’s be honest - the federal government does few things well, and I believe regulating social issues is an area where it fails. Let the churches, the non-profits, and the community groups step in, not almighty Uncle Sam.

Those are my Final Thoughts. Feel free to disagree. From LA, Nicolas Cage Bless and take care.
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hellboy said @ 6:27am GMT on 9th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
Who is she to deprive the homeland of her fine Aryan babies?
Hugh E. said @ 7:21am GMT on 9th Jul [Score:1 Underrated]
When people are right, they're right (even when they're rightwing), and she is right about the Roe v Wade issue.

If we got together on the issues we agree on in spite of the issues we don't, a corporate ruling class wouldn't be tossing us into the cockpit (after we hammer out our own spurs, of course) while they place their bets among our so-called representatives.

I've just had to deal with some social media death threats that got me thinking, yet again, as I have many times even before the threats, what are we doing?

Lahren may be the Kendall Jenner of rightwing punditry, but she has been consistent on this issue. So Yea! from me. We can at other times debate her other positions.
zarathustra said @ 8:01am GMT on 9th Jul
This is a battle the right can not afford to win. The politicians on the right ( with the exception of some tea party nut bags) don't give a rats ass about abortion except as something to rally the troops. If they win on the issue they loose the outrage that supports their voter turnout while reinvigorating their opponents. They are going to have a hell of a time trying to get their sheep to vote against their own interests if they can't scream "think of the babies."
C18H27NO3 said @ 3:48pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:2 Underrated]
Since when do repugnants ever tell the truth? They'll dismantle any protections and reproductive rights while yelling at their base that liberals are still killing babies. Undocumented immigrants are not killing people at will but Reich wing nuts believe ms13 is pouring over the border. They'll just lie.
Dienes said @ 12:04pm GMT on 9th Jul
I'm so used to conservative women getting an abortion and then immediately going back to picketing outside Planned Parenthood that Tomi's stance is almost refreshing.
the circus said @ 11:19pm GMT on 9th Jul
Didn't we have an entry about alt right females struggling to be seen as equals by alt right males? And why can't I find it now?
norok said[2] @ 6:29pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:-4 Boring]
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bbqkink said[1] @ 7:56pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:0 Underrated]
Only the fringiest of the Right actually want (or believe it can be) repealed

Yea the same 35% of the country or 70% of the GOP....that Fringe.

Four states have "trigger laws" that will instantaneously put a ban in motion, 10 have pre-Roe anti-abortion legislation on the books, and seven others have expressed intent to limit abortion rights.

Some Republican lawmakers have already passed "trigger laws" that would automatically ban abortion on the state level in the event that the Supreme Court rolls back the landmark 1973 ruling. Currently, four states—Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota, and South Dakota—have such a law in place.

They same fringe that the List that Trump is supposedly working off of were all pre-screened to be flag waving members of.

Judges Wouldn't Be On Federalist Society List If They Were Not Pro-Life
norok said @ 8:46pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:-2]
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bbqkink said @ 11:07pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:-2]
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5432 said[1] @ 1:44am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:-2]
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bbqkink said @ 2:02am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:-2]
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norok said @ 2:15am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:-2]
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arrowhen said @ 3:41am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:0 Funny]
But if she hadn't aborted those foreign babies they might have grown up to be illegal immigrants!
norok said @ 10:57am GMT on 10th Jul
The thought that I kept coming back to was that if the laws and culture were so bad in that country... the only way to change it was from within. The next great Civil Rights leader or culturally influential person could have been one of the aborted babies. Lost potential, we'll never know...
arrowhen said @ 6:49pm GMT on 10th Jul
Sure, or the next genocidal dictator or the next infant mortality statistic. If you're going to moan about "lost potential" you should at least be willing to admit that not every potential human outcome is a happy one.

And even then it's both callous and illogical to condemn actual humans to suffer for the sake of merely potential ones.

norok said @ 2:59am GMT on 11th Jul
By that same logic your quip about immigrants doesn't sound so wise then does it?

Callous to me mean something different to you. When I see my '4 year old' cousin, a "snowflake baby" that was conceived, frozen for 8 years, and then implanted to be born I see a more like 12 year old actual human being from start to finish.
Hugh E. said @ 2:48am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:-1 Underrated]
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norok said @ 11:00am GMT on 10th Jul [Score:-1]
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