Saturday, 10 March 2018

Stormy Daniels May Be A Legal Genius (or at least her lawyer is)

quote [ This episode examines the Complaint filed by Stormy Daniels seeking a legal determination that the Settlement Agreement entered into between her, Donald Trump’s lawyer, and (allegedly) Donald Trump is not legally binding.

We honestly believe that this is a much bigger bombshell than is being portrayed by the press. Listen and find out why. ]

I always thought the Stormy Daniels issue was a big deal because once a suspect lies you basically stop going to them for information. They're no longer a credible witness and a lawyer putting them on the stand is suicide (and that works out either way).

This really goes into depth about how the whole situation is bigger than even I thought it was.

It's OA154 in case this moves.
[SFW] [politics] [+7 Interesting]
[by Taxman@3:25amGMT]


bbqkink said[2] @ 5:09am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
I for one could give a shit about the sexual component of this looks like contractual sex. All that is between him and his wife. It is interesting because of the money...and the shear fear that releasing whatever she has on the Trump team.

And the other thing is Trumps lawyer going to take the bullet for Trump? Lawyers not allowed to pay for something for their client unless their client is indigent and there is no other way it can be paid...doubt it.
hellboy said @ 8:20am GMT on 10th Mar
I also don't care about the sex*, but there's a very good chance they're guilty of tax fraud.

* Though it's typical Republican hypocrisy that they're suddenly A-OK with the Dumpster's pecadilloes.
Taxman said @ 12:20pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
I agree the sex itself is irrelevant, unless it’s considered a crime, and you try to cover it up. Listen to the whole podcast, it’s a doozie.

It’s funny you mention tax-fraud because it’s a small oversight, but a large point. Everyone (Cohen especially) seems to be missing that y’all aren’t allowed to do/give things for/to each other for free. I know that sounds weird but let me explain.

Unless you are related, the amount of money/goods/services you transfer (without expectation, i.e. a gift) to another individual is limited each year. Everything else is considered commerce between individuals/corporations. If hellboy just gave steele $1 million because he likes this site so much, steele is going to have to report that as income on his taxes, even IF hellboy says “no no it was just a gift”. This would be true even if hellboy INSTEAD just paid off all steele’s student debt.

When you win the lottery, or prizes on price-is-right, or even trying to give a car away for “free”. Gotta pay your taxes.

26 USC 7203.

Cohen keeps shouting from the hilltops he transferred out of his own funds but specifically for the benefit of his client Mr. Trump...
hellboy said @ 9:14pm GMT on 10th Mar
Yeah, I meant ethically - if the sex itself is illegal that's another level of trouble for DD. The NY state law against adultery seems like the kind of never-enforced vestigial statute that should have been repealed years ago, but even if it wasn't enough to make the Delaware LLC illegal, the payment of hush money, the obstruction of justice, the tax fraud, and the campaign finance fraud surely would do so.

Fascinating podcast, does seem like checkmate. Even if the Dumpster pays Stormy 1 billion rubles to drop her suit, enough has been revealed to warrant a criminal investigation. If he admits to being DD he's admitting to criminal behavior, if he doesn't she can sell the texts and pictures and prove that he's DD. The only other apparent exit would be for Cohen to fall on his sword, but I'm not sure how that would prevent Daniels from releasing the material, exposing the Dumpster to at least another obstruction of justice charge. I guess he might skate in that case if there's no evidence the Russians knew anything about Daniels.

Thanks for posting.
HoZay said @ 10:39pm GMT on 10th Mar
Possibly she might get another, much larger off-the-books payment that would lead her to drop the lawsuit and disappear.
hellboy said[1] @ 3:14am GMT on 11th Mar
That was my thought too, but she's already on Mueller's radar now and a criminal subpoena overrides any NDA. At this point I think the Dumpster's best hope is that everyone does what DC almost always does and just shrugs and looks the other way. That doesn't seem Mueller's style though. He took down the Teflon Don after all.
satanspenis666 said @ 2:19pm GMT on 10th Mar
Also a big possibility that this payment also violates election rules, as the gift is likely to be seen as a political donation.
hellboy said @ 8:31pm GMT on 10th Mar
Yup. They mention this in the podcast - if DD is in fact the Dumpster Dictator, then it clearly was.
ComposerNate said @ 12:31pm GMT on 10th Mar
My greatest interest in this story is the Republican reflection as they try to justify accepting this while condemning Clinton/Lewinsky, an obvious unraveling of their imagined cloak of moral superiority. Trump needs to end the Republican party, it having a trajectory which will otherwise kill us all, and this boorish sex scandal should shave off that aspect of their brand.
HoZay said @ 1:14pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:2 Underrated]
having a trajectory which will otherwise kill us all

That's a feature, not a bug.
Evangelicals see Trump's Jerusalem move as key to 'end-times'
ComposerNate said @ 4:24pm GMT on 10th Mar
If we can forgive Trump's infidelity, we can surely forgive his crimes in stealing the election, so long as he pays off by killing us all.
cb361 said @ 6:31pm GMT on 10th Mar
Well, they say that Redemption Equals Death. But who's redemption and who's death?
hellboy said @ 9:36pm GMT on 10th Mar
Dan Savage is afraid that we're going to see Dumpster dick pics - but hopeful that this will at least accelerate the normalization of sexting for future political candidates.
ooo[......7 said @ 5:47am GMT on 10th Mar
That was a very entertaining podcast. Thank you for showing it to us.
Fish said[1] @ 5:19pm GMT on 11th Mar [Score:-1 Boring]
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coffeejoejava said @ 1:20pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:-5 Boring]
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Taxman said[1] @ 2:10pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Because a crime has been committed.

You can say you don’t care, but I’m betting two and a half shits that if Obama (or pick your ‘favorite’ democrat) had committed a fourth of this stuff, you’d cry bloody murder.

Russia investigation going on that has not found SHIT except stuff that happened even before Trump started running for office.

To be clear, most election related crime happens before the election. But thanks for playing.
norok said @ 2:34pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:-5 Boring]
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Taxman said[1] @ 3:04pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1]
No angle. Not sure why you think someone can only be in trouble for one thing at a time.

The “Russian thing” hasn’t been released, so not sure how it can be “not panning out”.

Listen to the podcast, they bring up Clinton. You know what makes this different? Paying money, through an LLC created solely to pay hush money, to prevent Election Day embarrassment. That’s a crime. He could have just admitted the affair and probably would have been fine (no one prosecutes adultery). However, he apparently felt it necessary to commit a bunch of crimes to hide it.

They couldn’t get Clinton to stick because verbally lying (no monetary/intimidation fueled cover-up) about something embarrassing didn’t appear to rise to the level. Paying large sums of money to influence an election 11 days prior? I guess we’ll see.
hellboy said[1] @ 9:29pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Good]
Yeah, people pushing the "Russian nothingburger" line are willfully oblivious to the multiple indictments, multiple plea bargains, and ongoing developments like Kushner's financial predicament, the Malaysian corruption scandal, the Seychelles meet and blatant lying under oath by Prince and others, the memo that Putin nixed Romney as SoS, and so on. Obstruction of justice is the least of the Dumpster's worries. Rather than the Russian investigation not panning out, you have to be suffering under a spectacular level of delusion to not see that it's likely to be the biggest corruption scandal the US had ever dealt with, and Mueller is not only running a very tight ship, his investigation is proceeding remarkably quickly compared to past special counsel investigations. Anyone who says there's no fire under all that smoke is desperately trying to convince themselves to eat a big pile of bullshit, because they're not remotely convincing to anyone else.
Fish said @ 5:19pm GMT on 11th Mar [Score:-2 Boring]
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Taxman said @ 9:35pm GMT on 11th Mar [Score:0 Underrated]
So you’re saying to proceed with the investigation?

I wasn’t alive for your reference above, but I would have said investigate that too?
Fish said @ 11:33pm GMT on 11th Mar [Score:-4 Boring]
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Taxman said @ 12:45am GMT on 12th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Ok, are you saying that should stop?

I haven’t seen anyone talk about JFK except for you. We can’t change anything 50 years ago, I don’t think anyone is even attempting to excuse anything.

As for Clinton, everyone is agreeing that Trump can have sex with whoever he wants. He’s not legally allowed to pay money to cover it up 11 days prior to the election and not report it (funds spent).

What are we being righteous about? No one brought up morality.
bbqkink said @ 3:13am GMT on 12th Mar
Me I'm still upset about David and that Bathsheba woman.

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