Saturday, 26 August 2017

Trump pardons former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, convicted of contempt of court for violating Latinos' rights

quote [ The president's action pleases his supporters on right but outrages Latino and immigrant groups, and concerns Republicans worried about alienating Hispanic voters. ]

Shoring up his fascist base.
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[by HoZay@12:26amGMT]

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mechavolt said @ 12:30am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:3 Insightful]
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Bleb said @ 1:22am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:3 Good]
midden said @ 2:21am GMT on 26th Aug
The Green brothers are fucking awesome.
BUGGERLUGS123 said @ 1:47pm GMT on 26th Aug
Exactly, maybe because protecting a racist bigot like himself is far far more important.
Fish said @ 3:15am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-5 Boring]
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rylex said @ 6:56am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-2]
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ScoobySnacks said @ 1:30am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:1 Funny]

Hugh E. said[1] @ 2:12am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:2 Funny]
Brownshirtie, you're doing a heck of a job.
Fish said @ 3:21am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-5 Bad]
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5th Earth said @ 3:41am GMT on 26th Aug
Prove that you aren't racist. Protip: you can't.
Fish said @ 3:51am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-3 Boring]
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5th Earth said @ 3:57am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:2 Informative]
On the other hand, when someone says "I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control," I think things have gone beyond a reasonable doubt.

Which is hearsay, I'll admit, but the whole Gonzalo Curiel thing was well documented straight from his own mouth.
C18H27NO3 said @ 9:46pm GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-2 Underrated]
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Fish said @ 2:04am GMT on 28th Aug [Score:-3 Troll]
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Bob Denver said @ 6:39am GMT on 26th Aug
His history seems to be pretty dark— Phoenix New Times coverage of Arpaio over the years
Fish said @ 2:09am GMT on 28th Aug [Score:-2 Troll]
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Hugh E. said[1] @ 4:43am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:1 Funsightful]
BUGGERLUGS123 said @ 1:49pm GMT on 26th Aug
I'm sorry, but the inference within your fish picture is devaluing the hobby of keeping goldfish. Comparing a beautiful peaceful creature with no sense of what racism is with a certain "hobby president" is certainly not called for.
Bruceski said @ 12:40am GMT on 26th Aug
Violating people's fifth amendment rights? Bah, no biggie.
papango said @ 1:46am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
Not people, Brucseki, Latinos.
Fish said @ 3:15am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-5 Boring]
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sezoomj said @ 7:35am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:3 Underrated]
American citizens. The lawsuit that lead to the court's demands was filed by American citizens who were detained by Sheriff Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office until proof of their citizenship could be produced in violation of their Fourth Amendment rights.
Bruceski said @ 3:19am GMT on 26th Aug
The Constitution applies to everyone except where it specifically says otherwise (like the right to vote).
Fish said @ 3:24am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-5 Boring]
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Fish said @ 3:38am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-4 Boring]
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jsabin69 said @ 5:36am GMT on 26th Aug
So...i read through the majority of his pardons...what exactly am I to gain from this...what am I "educating myself" about. Didn't seem anything inappropriate at face level in that link.

Fish said @ 2:11am GMT on 28th Aug
My point precisely.

He exercised his Constitutional prerogative, as did Trump.

Educate yourself on the rule of law, and the consequences of elections. I believe your guy said "I have a pen and a phone". Right?
rylex said @ 6:58am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:0 Funny]
why dont you just tell us your view on his pardons?
Fish said @ 2:07am GMT on 28th Aug
He's Constitutionally entitled to pardon whomever he pleases.

As is Trump.

To suggest that your guy's pardons are somehow better or more worthy is utterly laughable.

TDS, full force. Get help.
rylex said @ 5:56am GMT on 28th Aug
your above statements do not indicate that you agree with with the pardons issued by Obama, and in fact find fault with them. hence you directing people to look them up themselves.

if you had no issue with them, this would/should have been stated.
and note, your response to me didn't actually give your view on his pardons, just your view on the constitutionality of the pardon system
so yet again, put up or shut up cuck bitch
Fish said @ 12:49am GMT on 30th Aug

I said Trump and Obama's pardons were Constitutional. I didn't say I agreed with Obama's; in fact I don't.

And I believe the phrase for what I'm doing is 'living in your head, rent free'.

So yet again, get help.
rylex said @ 2:57pm GMT on 30th Aug
There now, was that so hard?

So, Trump's pardon of Arpaio?

I personally feel it's more evidence of "one hand washing the other".
Fish said @ 4:04am GMT on 2nd Sep
Arpaio?

If you're concerned about the rule of law, tell me where you stand on Lois Lerner and Fast and Furious.

rylex said[1] @ 5:56am GMT on 2nd Sep
I feel the same way about it as i do the oliver north incident and cia-rick ross-coke connection.

Government is too powerful and operates without any form of true regulation, and thus need to be stopped by any means.
rhesusmonkey said @ 8:20am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:0 Informative]
Because there is no "-1 Stupid". Do you understand why these people requested a pardon? Did you look at the conviction dates versus the term of their sentences?

American justice system deems once a criminal, always a criminal. You have a record and this limits your civilian life even after you have paid your dues to society. So, the Pardon is requested to erase their record, so that they can return to "normal" life after paying their dues, and do things like "vote" or "purchase a gun" or "get hired in a job that deals with money", you know, little things where having a criminal record can be problematic.

These people apply for a Pardon, they are mostly first time offenders for low impact crimes who all served their sentences, and the Justice Department has reviewed them prior to giving to the President for recommendation. It's not like Obama hand picked a group of people based on their mug shots.
Fish said @ 2:08am GMT on 28th Aug
See my comment, directly above.
bbqkink said[1] @ 12:58am GMT on 26th Aug
I guess we get to find out how much of this was bullshit now.

Key Trump staffer was on the brink of resigning after Charlottesville response

The stock market started to fall on rumors this guy was going to quit and they worried they wouldn't get their tax cuts...anybody taking bets?

And while we are on the topic...


Controversial Trump Adviser Sebastian Gorka Reportedly Resigns
He has long faced questions about his ties to Nazi sympathizers and far-right Hungarian political groups.
bbqkink said @ 1:14am GMT on 26th Aug
Just in case you thought this shit was over....


St. Louis man charged with driving into protesters, leaving scene
Bob Denver said @ 6:29am GMT on 26th Aug
Are "long faced questions" answered with bald-faced lies?
Fish said[1] @ 3:20am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:-4 Boring]
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SnappyNipples said @ 1:47am GMT on 26th Aug
Pretty sure Arpaio has countless civil suits against him. Lets see how deep are his pockets.
midden said @ 2:24am GMT on 26th Aug
Yes, remember that presidential pardons only cover Federal offences. On everything else, Arpaio is still fair game.
zarathustra said @ 2:43am GMT on 26th Aug
I don't know case law on pardons, but I do recall reading once that accepting a pardon carries an admission of culpability. If that is the case, it may actually be a boon for those bringing civil suits against him.
HoZay said @ 5:01am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:2]
I think this is a test run of the pardon process. He wants to have the kinks worked out before he starts pardoning his family, and staff, and himself.
bbqkink said @ 2:52am GMT on 26th Aug
Yes it is if you accept a pardon it is an admission of guilt. That is why Ford carried a copy of the Nixon pardon...to remind people he was the one who got him to confess.
midden said @ 12:54pm GMT on 26th Aug
A lot depends on how the pardon was worded. It can be so broad and vague as to be an admission to noting in particular.
foobar said @ 6:55am GMT on 26th Aug
So what are the options for bringing him to justice now? Can a higher court overrule this, or do people have to take in into their own hands?
rhesusmonkey said @ 8:12am GMT on 26th Aug
Civil suits, as opposed to criminal.

He was supposed to spend six months in jail, and was in the process of appeal. Now he's admitted guilt, which in theory makes him easier to pin with the civil suits, but i doubt it, because the pardon invalidates the record as well.
midden said @ 12:52pm GMT on 26th Aug
They can still be criminal, just not Federal.
bbqkink said @ 9:37pm GMT on 27th Aug
I can't see Mauricio County bringing charges. The Arizona AG is this guy Mark Brnovich

"Brnovich has worked as the Director of the Center for Constitutional Government at the Goldwater Institute, briefly for the Corrections Corporation of America, served as Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona, a prosecutor with the Maricopa County Attorney's Office, and Assistant Attorney General of Arizona"

So not likely there either.
Kama-Kiri said @ 9:11am GMT on 26th Aug
meanwhile, Kelly pushes Gorka out to drift...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/25/donald-trump-sebastian-gorka-out-white-house-breitbart

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