Thursday, 22 June 2017

The decline of American democracy won't be televised

quote [ in a country like the U.S., democratic backsliding will likely to start off looking a lot more normal -- with slow, legal attacks on our democratic institutions. ]

Main link is Vox YouTube vid. More in extended...

The decline of American democracy won't be televised


Professor Huq, featured in the video, writes on Democratic Backsliding in the US and abroad in greater depth:
This is how democratic backsliding begins

What does it look like? Maybe a health care bill being crafted in total secrecy, rammed through without public hearings or scrutiny?
Finally we get to see it-
The Senate GOP health bill in one sentence: poor people pay more for worse insurance
Plan is to pass it before the July 4 recess, so senators don't have to confront their constituents beforehand. Democratic backsliding, ftw.
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[by sanepride]
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3333 said @ 11:00am GMT on 23rd June

I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a quote that never uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to bolster an otherwise unwinnable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the illegitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever the old Teddy shared your repellant view of American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy




3333 said @ 11:06am GMT on 23rd June
I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a quote that never uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to shore up an otherwise unwinnable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the illegitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever the old Teddy shared your repellant view of American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy



3333 said @ 11:14am GMT on 23rd June

I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a quote that never even uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to shore up an otherwise unwinnable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the illegitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever that old Teddy shared your repellant view of American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy



3333 said @ 1:52pm GMT on 23rd June

I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a quote that never even uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to shore up an otherwise unwinnable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the illegitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever that old Teddy shared your repellant disregard for American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy.




3333 said @ 2:32pm GMT on 23rd June

I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a lengthy quote that never even uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to shore up an otherwise untenable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the legitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever that old Teddy shared your repellant disregard for American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy.




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3333 said @ 11:00am GMT on 23rd June [Score:-1 Boring]

I was going to ask why, in a thread talking about democracy, you chose a lengthy quote that never even uses the word. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a nice quote, just not germane. But since you’re cherry-picking presidential quotes to shore up an otherwise untenable argument, I’m wondering if you have any Roosevelt quotes that rail against the legitimacy of the John Quincy Adams administration?

No?

Perhaps Teddy’s dark musing on the antidemocratic nature of the Hayes’ presidency?

Nothing there either?

How about the patriotic resistance to the Harrison presidency?

Bupkus?

Curious that. I understand now why you went with a series of vague bromides about “patriotism”. Because there’s no evidence whatsoever that old Teddy shared your repellant disregard for American democracy. You’re just ventriloquizing the dead in an attempt to bolster a spurious position.

This may come as a shock to you, but the US is not a direct democracy.

Not all democracies are direct democracies.

In fact, most of them aren’t.

tl;dr

Losing is the most important part of democracy.





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