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Wednesday, 14 June 2017
quote [ A senior Republican politician and aides are among several shot during baseball practice in Virginia. ]
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kylemcbitch said @ 3:30pm GMT on 15th June
You are barking up the wrong tree, as I am someone who will tell you that the German people have a hell of a lot more responsibility for the Holocaust than people tend to historically attribute to them. Hitler may have rose to power on the strength of 35%, but he held on to it precisely because his position was popular.
kylemcbitch said @ 3:33pm GMT on 15th June
You are barking up the wrong tree, as I am someone who will tell you that the German people have a hell of a lot more responsibility for the Holocaust than people tend to historically attribute to them. Hitler may have rose to power on the strength of 35%, but he held on to it precisely because his position was popular.
An American soldier with deeply held religious convictions that lead him or her to volunteer so they might get a chance to shoot at muslims is wrong in all the same ways as the muslim that does the same. Though you must take the whole picture. That solider is part of a larger body, with more philosophical input than themselves. While that soldier might individually be wrong-headed, their service to that larger idea still stands. Which is why when I run into such people, I tell them they are fuckheads, but still generally thank them for the service all the same.
I don't agree with the man's politics, but I am not about to claim he didn't put his time and effort into trying to represent the views and opinions of the people he is elected to do so for. A politician is not there to serve MY views, they are they to serve the views of their constituents. The general idea being that somewhere in the giant chaotic mess of opinions, what is right or needed eventually comes to the surface.
kylemcbitch said @ 3:33pm GMT on 15th June
You are barking up the wrong tree, as I am someone who will tell you that the German people have a hell of a lot more responsibility for the Holocaust than people tend to historically attribute to them. Hitler may have rose to power on the strength of 35%, but he held on to it precisely because his position was popular.
An American soldier with deeply held religious convictions that lead him or her to volunteer so they might get a chance to shoot at muslims is wrong in all the same ways as the muslim that does the same. Though you must take the whole picture. That solider is part of a larger body, with more philosophical input than themselves. While that soldier might individually be wrong-headed, their service to that larger idea still stands. Which is why when I run into such people, I tell them they are fuckheads, but still generally thank them for the service all the same.
I don't agree with the man's politics, but I am not about to claim he didn't put his time and effort into trying to represent the views and opinions of the people he is elected to do so for. A politician is not there to serve MY views, they are they to serve the views of their constituents. The general idea being that somewhere in the giant chaotic mess of opinions, what is right or needed eventually comes to the surface.
At the end of the day, we are *not* a direct democracy. Our representatives are not only allowed to ignore us, they are encouraged to do so (two wolves and a well-armed lamb, anyone?) If and when we have a fundamental problem with that, it's our job to vote them out.
I do not have to agree with this person to understand his role.
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kylemcbitch said @ 3:30pm GMT on 15th June
You are barking up the wrong tree, as I am someone who will tell you that the German people have a hell of a lot more responsibility for the Holocaust than people tend to historically attribute to them. Hitler may have rose to power on the strength of 35%, but he held on to it precisely because his position was popular.
An American soldier with deeply held religious convictions that lead him or her to volunteer so they might get a chance to shoot at muslims is wrong in all the same ways as the muslim that does the same. Though you must take the whole picture. That solider is part of a larger body, with more philosophical input than themselves. While that soldier might individually be wrong-headed, their service to that larger idea still stands. Which is why when I run into such people, I tell them they are fuckheads, but still generally thank them for the service all the same.
I don't agree with the man's politics, but I am not about to claim he didn't put his time and effort into trying to represent the views and opinions of the people he is elected to do so for. A politician is not there to serve MY views, they are they to serve the views of their constituents. The general idea being that somewhere in the giant chaotic mess of opinions, what is right or needed eventually comes to the surface.
At the end of the day, we are *not* a direct democracy. Our representatives are not only allowed to ignore us, they are encouraged to do so (two wolves and a well-armed lamb, anyone?) If and when we have a fundamental problem with that, it's our job to vote them out.
I do not have to agree with this person to understand his role.
