Monday, 8 October 2018

Realpolitalk

quote [ Wanted to have a discussion on The Future of the USA (TM). ]

Prompt for discussion in extended entry.

So... now that Rs have (at least) two sexual predators on SCOTUS the question has come up for me again of what's the line in which I'm like, "Ok, now is the time when if people were smart in The Purge or The Pianist or whatever they'd pick up and leave, seeing the direction things are going."

I feel like now is that time to "get in while the getting is good" and find a new job, get a visa, etc without being thought of as a refugee or laws regarding immigration/emigration get harder, etc.

This is mainly because I can't see a viable way to not have a slide into something significantly worse in the country. Let's step away from the quite possible failure of the blue wave, keeping the Rs with congress for another two years, or the -quite possible- reelection of our command and chief. So, that's on the table and quite possible, perhaps more-so. In that timeline things continue their not so slow slide towards fascism, which I use without hyperbole as the US has always been pretty buddy buddy with the ideals of fascism and that ever more seems to be the case. But what's the alternative? Let's say D's take the congress and POTUS back... and then what? There is no solution to 30 years of propaganda and aggressive tribalism.

Does anyone have a "likely" scenario that has a positive outlook? I hope I'm missing something and just being myopically pessimistic but how does this not end with violence of some sort?
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rhesusmonkey said @ 3:20am GMT on 10th October
i read up more on this today. The protesters are definitely in the wrong. no police presence because apparently abdicating your duties is preferable than having "bad optics".

though i thought it was ironic that the police were encouraging the "victims" in the video i saw (which was, a guy turning right and having some protester lying on the hood of his car, then others running after him to hit his car with batons. fucking savages in this town.

but this has been going on since the Election. people shutting down I5 etc with "nightly" protests. i don't condone that behaviour, and yet, if staying in your box doesn't yield the results you want, eventually you have to think, and act, outside of it.


rhesusmonkey said @ 3:52am GMT on 10th October
i read up more on this today. The protesters are definitely in the wrong. no police presence because apparently abdicating your duties is preferable than having "bad optics".

though i thought it was ironic that the police were encouraging the "victims" in the video i saw (which was, a guy turning right and having some protester lying on the hood of his car, then others running after him to hit his car with batons. fucking savages in this town.) to come in to local police to file claims against the man.

but this has been going on since the Election. people shutting down I5 etc with "nightly" protests. i don't condone that behaviour, and yet, if staying in your box doesn't yield the results you want, eventually you have to think, and act, outside of it.



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rhesusmonkey said @ 3:20am GMT on 10th October [Score:-3]
i read up more on this today. The protesters are definitely in the wrong. no police presence because apparently abdicating your duties is preferable than having "bad optics".

though i thought it was ironic that the police were encouraging the "victims" in the video i saw (which was, a guy turning right and having some protester lying on the hood of his car, then others running after him to hit his car with batons. fucking savages in this town.) to come in to local police to file claims against the man.

but this has been going on since the Election. people shutting down I5 etc with "nightly" protests. i don't condone that behaviour, and yet, if staying in your box doesn't yield the results you want, eventually you have to think, and act, outside of it.




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