Monday, 8 October 2018

Realpolitalk

quote [ Wanted to have a discussion on The Future of the USA (TM). ]

Prompt for discussion in extended entry.

So... now that Rs have (at least) two sexual predators on SCOTUS the question has come up for me again of what's the line in which I'm like, "Ok, now is the time when if people were smart in The Purge or The Pianist or whatever they'd pick up and leave, seeing the direction things are going."

I feel like now is that time to "get in while the getting is good" and find a new job, get a visa, etc without being thought of as a refugee or laws regarding immigration/emigration get harder, etc.

This is mainly because I can't see a viable way to not have a slide into something significantly worse in the country. Let's step away from the quite possible failure of the blue wave, keeping the Rs with congress for another two years, or the -quite possible- reelection of our command and chief. So, that's on the table and quite possible, perhaps more-so. In that timeline things continue their not so slow slide towards fascism, which I use without hyperbole as the US has always been pretty buddy buddy with the ideals of fascism and that ever more seems to be the case. But what's the alternative? Let's say D's take the congress and POTUS back... and then what? There is no solution to 30 years of propaganda and aggressive tribalism.

Does anyone have a "likely" scenario that has a positive outlook? I hope I'm missing something and just being myopically pessimistic but how does this not end with violence of some sort?
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ComposerNate said @ 3:42pm GMT on 8th October
Republicans choosing GW Bush after their Lewinsky nonsense was what confirmed my need to escape, choosing Germany and the EU to raise a family and new life. When the economic collapse happened, I didn't expect it to be global. It's now been 15+ years and I've felt better about paying taxes considering where they go, better about raising a son here without all that religious, gun murder, racist, war hungry toxicity, and have a higher income with greater savings than anyone in my stateside family. The downside is needing ask my wife to help me read some of my mail, and having left behind many worthwhile childhood and young adult friends, none of whom visit, even with promises of guest room and financial help and free tours of Europe with me. Also the risk that any great war will be global and the increasingly isolationist USA has nearly all the weapons.

ComposerNate said @ 3:45pm GMT on 8th October
Republicans choosing GW Bush after their Lewinsky nonsense was what confirmed my need to escape, choosing Germany and the EU to raise a family and new life. When the economic collapse happened, I didn't expect it to be global. It's now been 15+ years and I've felt better about paying taxes considering where they go, better about raising a son here without all that religious, gun murder, racist, war hungry toxicity, and have a higher income with greater savings than anyone in my stateside family. The downside is needing ask my wife to help me read some of my mail, and having left behind many worthwhile childhood and young adult friends, none of whom visit, even with promises of guest room and financial help and free tours of Europe with me. Also the risk that any great war will be global and the increasingly isolationist USA has nearly all the weapons. I have reverted my apartment's cellar space back to a useable WW1 bomb shelter, my city having been bombed twice the last century and NATO now being less reliable.

ComposerNate said @ 3:56pm GMT on 8th October
Republicans choosing GW Bush after their Lewinsky nonsense was what confirmed my need to escape, choosing Germany and the EU to raise a family and new life. When the economic collapse happened, I didn't expect it to be global. It's now been 15+ years and I've felt better about paying taxes considering where they go, better about raising a son here without all that religious, gun murder, racist, war hungry toxicity, and have a higher income with greater savings than anyone in my stateside family. The downside is needing ask my wife to help me read some of my mail, and having left behind many worthwhile childhood and young adult friends, none of whom visit, even with promises of guest room and financial help and free tours of Europe with me. Also the risk that any great war will be global and the increasingly isolationist USA has nearly all the weapons. I have reverted my apartment's cellar space back to a useable post-WW1 bomb shelter, my city having been bombed twice the last century and NATO now being less reliable.

ComposerNate said @ 4:04pm GMT on 8th October
Republicans choosing GW Bush after their Lewinsky nonsense was what confirmed my need to escape, choosing Germany and the EU to raise a family and new life. When the economic collapse happened, I didn't expect it to be global. It's now been 15+ years and I've felt better about paying taxes considering where they go, better about raising a son here without all that religious, gun murder, racist, war hungry toxicity, and have a higher income with greater savings than anyone in my stateside family. The downside is needing ask my wife to help me read some of my mail, and having left behind many worthwhile childhood and young adult friends, none of whom visit, even with promises of guest room and financial help and free tours of Europe with me. Also the risk that any war upcoming will be global, from climate change desperation or aggression, and the increasingly isolationist USA has nearly all the weapons. I have reverted my apartment's cellar space back to a useable post-WW1 bomb shelter, my city having been bombed twice the last century and NATO now being less reliable.


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ComposerNate said @ 3:42pm GMT on 8th October [Score:1 Informative]
Republicans choosing GW Bush after their Lewinsky nonsense was what confirmed my need to escape, choosing Germany and the EU to raise a family and new life. When the economic collapse happened, I didn't expect it to be global. It's now been 15+ years and I've felt better about paying taxes considering where they go, better about raising a son here without all that religious, gun murder, racist, war hungry toxicity, and have a higher income with greater savings than anyone in my stateside family. The downside is needing ask my wife to help me read some of my mail, and having left behind many worthwhile childhood and young adult friends, none of whom visit, even with promises of guest room and financial help and free tours of Europe with me. Also the risk that any war upcoming will be global, from climate change desperation or aggression, and the increasingly isolationist USA has nearly all the weapons. I have reverted my apartment's cellar space back to a useable post-WW1 bomb shelter, my city having been bombed twice the last century and NATO now being less reliable.



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