Saturday, 2 June 2018

After Evergreen

quote [ Most media reports about what happened at Evergreen last year go like this: Instead of people of color leaving campus, last year, a campus group requested that white students, faculty, and staff leave on the Day of Absence instead. In most reports, the drama started when a professor objected to this change. In response, outraged students protested that professor’s class, footage of the event went viral, the alt-right flocked to Evergreen, and the college was shut down, all because one professor objected to rejiggering an old Evergreen tradition.

That, if you read most reports—or the school’s official version of events—is what happened. But reality, as with most things, is more complex. ]

A lot more people need to read Animal Farm.

I'm pretty far left by American political standards, but I'm also a big believer in rationalism and open discussion, and there's a dangerously dogmatic streak of batshit irrationalism in the American left that can be really disturbing (albeit not as bad as the blatantly corrupt fascism currently in power).

I disagree with Weinstein's choice to go on Fox and talk to Tucker Carlson - we shouldn't legitimize that propaganda source. But acting like self-righteous jackasses also validates Republican propaganda in a different way.
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[by hellboy]
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4321 said @ 1:21am GMT on 3rd June

Excellent. It would appear we agree that Jordan Peterson does not treat as axiomatic that atheism must end in authoritarianism.

Good.

So, let's move on to nihilism. The aspect you feel I cunningly omitted.

The quote doesn't support that contention any better than the first one. In fact, the reference to "nihilism" is an extension of the first claim - It is likewise dependent and predicated on the notion of "false certainty".


“To stem this unraveling with false certainty: that is totalitarianism. To speed it along is nihilism ."


Both are conditional on embracing "false certainty" - a possibility to be sure, but by no means an "axiomatic" certainty.


4321 said @ 1:29am GMT on 3rd June
Excellent. It would appear we agree that Jordan Peterson does not treat as axiomatic that atheism must end in authoritarianism.

Good.

So, let's move on to nihilism. The aspect you feel I cunningly omitted.

The quote doesn't support that contention any better than the first one. In fact, the reference to "nihilism" is an extension of the first claim - It is likewise dependent and predicated on the notion of "false certainty".


“To stem this unraveling with false certainty: that is totalitarianism. To speed it along is nihilism ."


Both are conditional on embracing "false certainty" - a possibility to be sure, but by no means an "axiomatic" certainty.

But this is all quibbling, because Peterson never speaks of "vicious nihilism" - the whole thing is a straw man.



4321 said @ 1:31am GMT on 3rd June
Excellent. It would appear we agree that Jordan Peterson does not treat as axiomatic that atheism must end in authoritarianism.

Good.

So, let's move on to "vicious nihilism". The aspect you feel I cunningly omitted.

The quote doesn't support that contention any better than the first one. In fact, the reference to "nihilism" is an extension of the first claim - It is likewise dependent and predicated on the notion of "false certainty".


“To stem this unraveling with false certainty: that is totalitarianism. To speed it along is nihilism ."


Both are conditional on embracing "false certainty" - a possibility to be sure, but by no means an "axiomatic" certainty.

But this is all quibbling, because Peterson never speaks of "vicious nihilism" - he talks about "nihilism" an entirely different thing.





4321 said @ 1:32am GMT on 3rd June
Excellent. It would appear we agree that Jordan Peterson does not treat as axiomatic that atheism must end in authoritarianism.

Good.

So, let's move on to "vicious nihilism". The aspect you feel I cunningly omitted.

The quote doesn't support that contention any better than the first one. In fact, the reference to "nihilism" is an extension of the first claim - It is likewise dependent and predicated on the notion of "false certainty".


“To stem this unraveling with false certainty: that is totalitarianism. To speed it along is nihilism ."


Both are conditional on embracing "false certainty" - a possibility to be sure, but by no means an "axiomatic" certainty.

But this is all quibbling, because Peterson never speaks of "vicious nihilism" - he talks about "nihilism" an entirely different thing.

The concept of "vicious nihilism" is a creation of your own imagination.





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4321 said @ 1:21am GMT on 3rd June [Score:-1 Boring]
Excellent. It would appear we agree that Jordan Peterson does not treat as axiomatic that atheism must end in authoritarianism.

Good.

So, let's move on to "vicious nihilism". The aspect you feel I cunningly omitted.

The quote doesn't support that contention any better than the first one. In fact, the reference to "nihilism" is an extension of the first claim - It is likewise dependent and predicated on the notion of "false certainty".


“To stem this unraveling with false certainty: that is totalitarianism. To speed it along is nihilism ."


Both are conditional on embracing "false certainty" - a possibility to be sure, but by no means an "axiomatic" certainty.

But this is all quibbling, because Peterson never speaks of "vicious nihilism" - he talks about "nihilism" an entirely different thing.

The concept of "vicious nihilism" is a creation of your own imagination.






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