Thursday, 24 July 2014

Isis ?ordering female genital mutilation? in Iraq city, UN says

quote [ Militant group Islamic State has ordered all girls and women in and around Iraq?s northern city of Mosul to undergo female genital mutilation (FGM), the United Nations said today.

The ?fatwa? issued by the Sunni Muslim fighters would potentially affect 4 million women and girls, UN resident and humanitarian coordinator in Iraq Jacqueline Badcock told reporters in Geneva by videolink from Arbil. ]

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[by maryyugo@3:58pmGMT]

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ComposerNate said @ 4:58pm GMT on 24th Jul [Score:3 Informative]
Unbelievable.

The Islamic State group has ordered females in its territory in Iraq to undergo female circumcision, the UN's resident and humanitarian coordinator in Iraq has said - a claim rejected by activists linked to the group.

The decree was posted on Twitter, but its authenticity was rejected by Islamic State affiliated websites and Twitter accounts.

When asked by Al Jazeera when the group would issue a statement, one Islamic State sympathiser said: "They have better things to do with their time than retracting bogus claims."

However, local reports suggest that it was not issued by the Islamic State group, and a statement had not been issued by its media division.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/un-islamic-state-orders-genital-mutilation-201472412511366171.html
maryyugo said @ 5:23pm GMT on 24th Jul
"They have better things to do with their time than retracting bogus claims."
*
That they do. They're very busy hunting down and assassinating innocent Christians, atheists and other unbelievers who refuse to convert to Islam.
ComposerNate said @ 5:53pm GMT on 24th Jul
If you now find it spurious Isis has ordered female genital mutilation, then perhaps you should update your post, or else perpetuate this false apparent propaganda. I'll assume that's not something you're comfortable with.
maryyugo said @ 5:57pm GMT on 24th Jul
I am simply reporting what the UN said. What you do with it is up to you. I don't know for sure whether ISIS ordered that or not. I know they are capable of it. They are capable of anything.
ComposerNate said @ 6:15pm GMT on 24th Jul [Score:1 Informative]
There's nothing about it on the UN website.

Jacqueline Badcock Responds to a Tweet would be a more accurate headline for you.
mechavolt said @ 6:46pm GMT on 24th Jul
But now I don't know what to believe! Quick, somebody tell me what to think about this!
Dumbledorito said @ 12:44am GMT on 25th Jul [Score:1 Informative]
maryyugo said @ 12:59am GMT on 25th Jul
Yes. I doubt it now myself. However, I reported what Irish Times was printing and before I posted it, I did my best to vet it and found this confirmatory piece in Al Ayabya.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/07/24/-ISIS-order-female-genital-mutilation-in-Iraq.html
maryyugo said @ 1:02am GMT on 25th Jul
Correction: Al Arabya
SE still needs an editor for maybe 5 minutes after a post.
slaytanik said @ 3:45am GMT on 25th Jul [Score:1 Informative]
No, they're not: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/24/3463683/no-isis-isnt-ordering-female-genital-mutilation-in-iraq/
SnappyNipples said @ 4:32pm GMT on 24th Jul
Again ISIS being all warm and fuzzy
cdwilli1 said @ 4:38pm GMT on 24th Jul
How barbaric ARE these wankers? This is staggering.
maryyugo said @ 4:49pm GMT on 24th Jul
They are the new Nazis. (yeah, I know about Godwin)
bltrocker said @ 6:32pm GMT on 24th Jul [Score:1]
You are a poor facsimile of the old maryyugo.
sanepride said @ 9:04pm GMT on 24th Jul [Score:-1 Troll]
filtered comment under your threshold
maryyugo said @ 10:15pm GMT on 24th Jul
The posts are not about Muslims. Coincidentally, the Ayatollah and ISIS say they are Muslim.

So go ahead and post some pro-Muslim posts. Better yet, tell me what sweet things ISIS and the Iranian government have ever done for their own people, much less for me.
bltrocker said @ 7:32pm GMT on 25th Jul
The old maryyugo would say that it wasn't the evil brown people that made the religion look bad, it was the evil religion that made the brown people bad. Being nonchalant about their religion seems a little inconsistent.
maryyugo said @ 7:48pm GMT on 25th Jul
No. Old and new maryyugo say that it's not about the skin color or the religion. It's about the beliefs, customs, and most of all actions. I don't care what you call it or who does it, I hate ignorance, violence, and the unnecessary forcing of misery and restrictions on people. And guess who does that the most in the present day world?
sanepride said @ 7:56pm GMT on 25th Jul [Score:1 Underrated]
That would be mostly white, male capitalists and their mostly white, male political cronies.
maryyugo said @ 8:41pm GMT on 25th Jul
That would be mostly religious radicals and in the modern world, mainly Islamic ones though there are plenty around of other stripes albeit in smaller quantities and with much less freedom to maneuver in their surroundings.
sanepride said @ 9:10pm GMT on 25th Jul
Radicals and extremists of all stripes are fueled by inequity, economic desperation,and political expedience. It certainly can be argued that the ignorance and obstruction on climate change perpetuated by fat cat energy interests is a far bigger global threat than any religious radicals (although there is some overlap here with radical religious christians).
LL said @ 9:32pm GMT on 25th Jul
So we can agree that the world, with the fat cat white corporate money and power hounds along with religious extremists and a healthy dose of inequality has fucked us up beyond repair.

How man has survived this long is a mystery. But then again, we are on course for self-destruction.

sanepride said @ 9:58pm GMT on 25th Jul
Actually I would disagree that we are fucked up beyond repair and headed for self destruction. I may be a cynic but I'm no nihilist, I remain hopeful that we can reason ourselves out of any calamity we can cook up.
We did manage, after all, to survive the Cold War. In spite of recent events, that outcome alone gives me hope for the future.
ComposerNate said @ 8:57am GMT on 25th Jul
Shall we consider ISIS to be now establishing Sunni territory in a three-state solution? The Kurds seem well settled and defended up north, and the Shiites get whatever they can keep hold of? There'd then be more stable boundaries instead of us squeezing perpetually hostile cultures within borders established by France/UK for the purpose of creating turmoil and weakened resistance to their post WW1 colonial control.
papango said @ 9:01am GMT on 25th Jul
It sounds good in theory. But look at how partition went down between India and Pakistan, or the population exchange between Greece and Turkey. Things got nasty pretty quickly and while the immediate borders seem more stable, the tension is still bubbling away underneath.
ComposerNate said @ 12:06pm GMT on 25th Jul
India and Pakistan sounds a fair comparison, unnatural culturally-splitting borders forced on a people to support UK colonialism. Kasmir culturally aligns with Pakistan, and India has no right to it beyond UK's claim.

Once an Iraqi three-state solution is brought to a head, I expect tension to remain, of course. One way to reduce that followup tension is ISIS's approach of removing or taxing all Christians and whoever else may challenge majority Sunni control in their area. Then tension remains at any disputed borders, if at all.
LL said @ 5:57pm GMT on 25th Jul
Re-aligning borders based on violence or cultural demographics seems like a slippery slope.

It will open the floodgates for every other minority to claim territory as their own. Separatism will become the norm, and more violence will occur. It will also allow nations to claim territory from their neighbors citing cultural and historical ownership.

Example : Ukraine, Basques, Kashmir, will that mean that the Kurds will want to claim part of Turkey? What about Syria? Armenia?

Then there would be arguments over oil fields, reparations, etc. Debates over which historical record of borders will be used, and nobody can play neutral arbiter over any of it.

Complicated. Consequences will be felt globally.

War and territorialism are innately human, and will likely continue. The reduction of poverty and inequality helps, though.

sanepride said @ 6:40pm GMT on 25th Jul
But then again, the original borders of Iraq were based on Western imperial interests, so the slipper slope was already set.
HoZay said @ 8:33pm GMT on 25th Jul
It'd actually be pretty simple if it wasn't for the oil fields.
LL said @ 9:28pm GMT on 25th Jul
There is no oil in Ukraine. Not so simple there. Or in Kashmir.
HoZay said @ 1:52am GMT on 26th Jul
True that.
LL said @ 9:13pm GMT on 26th Jul
I stand corrected. Maybe no oil, but oil is involved nevertheless.

http://www.vice.com/read/how-putins-american-fixers-keep-russian-sanctions-toothless-724

Don't know how reliable Vice News is.
HoZay said @ 12:17am GMT on 27th Jul
Vice news is surprisingly good - actual reporters on the scene.

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