Yeah, back-in-the-day Stevie Nicks in a little summer dress is always worth a watch.

Not sure why, but that just reads creepy AF. Just me?

If you can't express appreciation for pretty girls in little summer dresses in even the most benign words, then it's time to just give up and go live as a celibate hermit in a cave.

Not saying anyone "can't express". Just my expression that the "worth a watch" struck me as just a little reductive and objectifying.

But, hey, y'all do y'all.

I like looking at pretty girls. I'm quite certain that most guys, from their early teens and on into their 100s, like looking at pretty girls. It seems silly, and even potentially harmful, to pretend that this is not so. Should guys treat women as objects because of this fact? Absolutely not.

As humans with complex social conditioning, we can modify how we respond and react to some of our more basic drives and motivations, as well we should for the benefit of society and all the members thereof. If anything, I think pretending that those drives and motivations don't exist ultimately does more harm than good. As long as we are aware of them, there's nothing at all wrong with enjoying and appreciating them when the universe delivers a cutie to our appreciative eyes.

yeah, just you.

Fine. Just remember Vickie can hear you.

I’m so old I remember the quickie category on SE.

Only early 2016 kids will remember!

Yes to Stevie twirling.

I know only "Rumors", "Tusk", and a little "Tango of the Night", and yet think they are a great band. Which really is a sign of a great band.

(Also, TIL there was a Fleetwood Mac before Nicks and Buckingham. But really, was there?)

Yes, there was.
fleetwood mac - oh well (1969)

eep Meant no disrespect to the memory of Danny Kirwan. Fleetwood Mac has been a few different good/great bands.

(I had just assumed Buckingham (and Nicks) were in the mix, too)

Albatross - Fleetwood Mac

There was even a fake Fleetwood Mac in 1974 that had the same (ex-)manager but none of the same band members. But for a really crazy story, check out what happened to their original guitarist Jeremy Spencer:

Shortly after arriving in LA on the day of a gig the group was scheduled to perform at the Whisky A Go Go, Spencer left the hotel room he shared with Fleetwood to visit a bookshop on Hollywood Boulevard. He did not return, forcing the cancellation of that evening's concert while the band and members of their entourage went searching for him. Some days later, he was found to have joined the religious group the Children of God, and he declared that he no longer wanted to be involved with Fleetwood Mac. Despite appeals from the band's manager, Clifford Davis, to fulfil his obligations to Fleetwood Mac, Spencer could not be persuaded to rejoin the band, and thus they had to struggle on without him, first recalling Peter Green out of retirement as an emergency measure, and later recruiting new guitarist Bob Welch.

Despite many rumours of brainwashing and forced induction into the organisation, Spencer has always maintained that he joined the organisation of his own free will. He had been approached by a young man named Apollos, who engaged Spencer in conversation about God, and invited him to a nearby mission where other members were staying. During the evening, Spencer became convinced that this change of direction was the best course for him to take, and by the time Fleetwood Mac found him, his mind was made up.

The Children of God (now calling themselves Family International) is a cult that used the strategy of "Flirty Fishing" to attract new members, whereby young female cult members would go out and have sex with men to entice them to join the cult. They've been accused of sexually abusing children by women who have left the cult, and the adopted son of the founder of the cult murdered one of his caretakers and then committed suicide. Fun stuff.

I remember when that happened. It made me never want to get anywhere near a cult.

But think: free sex from cradle to grave!

I think I was in my late 20s before I realized that Oh Well was by an earlier incarnation of Fleetwood Mac. It gives me some Paul Butterfield Blues Band vibes.

The Paul Butterfield Blues Band "Born in Chicago"

I think 80s punk icon Mike Watt said it best when he wrote, in the 90s, "The kids of today should defend themselves against the 70s."

Rumours


Murray: [To Jemaine] I've told you. When you are in a band, you don't get with your bandmate's girlfriend. Past or present.
Jemaine: Yes, well, thanks for that.
Murray: You get a love triangle, you know, a Fleetwood Mac situation. Although there was four of them, so more of a love square. But you know, no-one gets on.
Jemaine: Ok, I see.
Murray: Mind you, they did make some of their best music back then.
Bret: Rumours.
Murray: No. No, it's all true.

Learned yesterday that my colleague never heard of King Crimson before:
The court of the Crimson King

You have to admit, though, that King Crimson, as freaking awesome as they have been/are in their many incarnations, have never been exactly main stream. It's not that hard to have never heard of them.

I was first introduce to K.C. indirectly, by my first live concert. My oldest sister, who was working as a college radio DJ, took me to see Laurie Anderson on her Mr. Heartbreak tour, and her touring guitarist was Adrian Belew. What he did with his guitar blew my little mind. Belew lead to Robert Fripp & Co.

Crimson as the musical guest on the show Fridays, playing Elephant talk. And they're actually playing it live. They are so freaking tight, it blows my mind; Fripp, Belew, Bruford, Levin, what a fantastic alternative music super-group.

King Crimson: Elephant Talk (live on Fridays)

[edit: that‘s some impressive footage there! Somehow I can‘t mod your comment anymore]

Ah, well, always thought this was part of some sort of canon; with Genesis, Gentle Giant and the like … looking that up again there is a pleasingy deep Wikipedia page at hand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_rock

Sadly, I suspect most people think of Genesis' first album as Invisible Touch.

Gentle Giant, nice! I haven't thought of them in a long time. I'll have to go do some digging, now.

This is the album I proposed my colleague should listen to – an Island records sampler:

Heavy Jelly - "I Keep Singing That Same Old Song" (HQ)