Friday, 29 March 2019

The Green New Deal and the case against incremental climate policy

quote [ The only way Democrats can hope to pass climate legislation is by radically shaking up the status quo balance of powers. ]

People who think the Green New Deal isn't realistic can't seem to come up with a better idea.
[SFW] [environment & nature] [+3 Underrated]
[by hellboy]
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hellboy said @ 5:52am GMT on 1st April
When Kennedy gave his "man on the moon" speech, only one American had ever been in space, and only for 15 minutes, while literally floating in a puddle of his own piss. The point of the GND is to set ambitious goals, because without ambitious goals, we're fucked. Like, you may know how infrastructure works, but you have no fucking idea how fucked we are.

The goal of the GND is to keep the increase in global temperature below two degrees Celsius (a level that has already been described as "genocide" by the inhabitants of islands which will no longer exist, and which James Hansen says "is actually a prescription for long-term disaster"). In order to meet that probably-inadequate goal, we can only release another 565 gigatons of CO2 by 2050; at the current rate of output we'll hit that limit in less than ten years. The amount of CO2 in the fossil fuels that have already been leased is 2,795 gigatons (as of 2014), 80% of which must never be burned.

Yeah, switching everything over to nuclear and solar in ten years seems pretty close to impossible. But the person who sets out to save up a million dollars and only makes it halfway is still better off than the person who succeeds in their goal of saving up $100K. And we need to get as close to carbon neutral as possible in ten years, because, in case it isn't clear yet, we are fucked.


hellboy said @ 7:17am GMT on 1st April
When Kennedy gave his "man on the moon" speech, only one American had ever been in space, and only for 15 minutes, while literally floating in a puddle of his own piss. The point of the GND is to set ambitious goals, because without ambitious goals, we're fucked. Like, you may know how infrastructure works, but you have no idea how fucked we are.

The goal of the GND is to keep the increase in global temperature below two degrees Celsius (a level that has already been described as "genocide" by the inhabitants of islands which will no longer exist, and which James Hansen says "is actually a prescription for long-term disaster"). In order to meet that probably-inadequate goal, we can only release another 565 gigatons of CO2 by 2050; at the current rate of output we'll hit that limit in less than ten years. The amount of CO2 in the fossil fuels that have already been leased is 2,795 gigatons (as of 2014), 80% of which must never be burned.

Yeah, switching everything over to nuclear and solar in ten years seems pretty close to impossible. But the person who sets out to save up a million dollars and only makes it halfway is still better off than the person who succeeds in their goal of saving up $100K. And we need to get as close to carbon neutral as possible in ten years, because, in case it isn't clear yet, we are fucked.



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hellboy said @ 5:52am GMT on 1st April [Score:1 Sad]
When Kennedy gave his "man on the moon" speech, only one American had ever been in space, and only for 15 minutes, while literally floating in a puddle of his own piss. The point of the GND is to set ambitious goals, because without ambitious goals, we're fucked. Like, you may know how infrastructure works, but you have no idea how fucked we are.

The goal of the GND is to keep the increase in global temperature below two degrees Celsius (a level that has already been described as "genocide" by the inhabitants of islands which will no longer exist, and which James Hansen says "is actually a prescription for long-term disaster"). In order to meet that probably-inadequate goal, we can only release another 565 gigatons of CO2 by 2050; at the current rate of output we'll hit that limit in less than ten years. The amount of CO2 in the fossil fuels that have already been leased is 2,795 gigatons (as of 2014), 80% of which must never be burned.

Yeah, switching everything over to nuclear and solar in ten years seems pretty close to impossible. But the person who sets out to save up a million dollars and only makes it halfway is still better off than the person who succeeds in their goal of saving up $100K. And we need to get as close to carbon neutral as possible in ten years, because, in case it isn't clear yet, we are fucked.




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