Sunday, 8 March 2020

Baci da Milano

quote [ Italy Locks Down Much of the Country’s North Over the Coronavirus
The restrictions affect Milan and the regions that serve as Italy’s economic engine, and are the most sweeping measures outside China. ]

Greetings from Milan, by an old timer Italian SEr.

What more can I say? We are officially confined.

It feels quite strange. I'll try to keep you informed, in case of remarkable developments (I spare you the superstitious gestures I'm indulging in as I type this: they are probably culturally untranslatable).
[SFW] [health] [+4 Informative]
[by NuncEstBibendum@10:54amGMT]


NuncEstBibendum said @ 12:31am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:2 Sad]
Update from Italy! The restrictions are extended to the whole country.

An advice for you dear SErs: keep your elderly loved ones as isolated as possible, starting from now. Sorry to sound so apocalyptic, but this thing is serious.
Space_1889 said @ 12:54am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:3 Sad]
My Dad just died from complications related to influenza last month. My Mom had both influenza and pneumonia, but survived (she's tough). I'm really hoping I can keep her safe from the Coronavirus. All my best to you, and please stay safe!
steele said @ 12:56am GMT on 10th Mar
Jason Van Schoor on Twitter: "From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy: 1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do." / Twitter

This thread about match up with what you're hearing over there?
NuncEstBibendum said @ 1:08am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Sad]
Yes. Sadly, I confirm. My uncle and his husband are both physicians, and their reports are similar to this one.
steele said @ 1:13am GMT on 10th Mar
Well that's terrifying. Any idea what ED is that they mention?
NuncEstBibendum said @ 1:17am GMT on 10th Mar
...Emergency Department, I suppose.
NuncEstBibendum said[1] @ 8:29am GMT on 16th Mar [Score:2 WTF]
Meanwhile, in Italy we're running out of masks and protective material.
"Running out" as in "no more masks for the operators, and our foreign suppliers blocked their export".
steele said @ 7:49pm GMT on 8th Mar [Score:1 Good]
Stay safe! Here in Florida we've had one or two cases so the old folks home I stay at to take care of my grandfather has begun screening people entering the campus. Oh, boy.
cb361 said @ 10:30pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
I have had a cold for two weeks, or possibly two colds end-to-end

GF: Maybe you have Coronavirus
Me: I don't have Coronavirus
GF: You might have
Me: I don't have Coronavirus
GF: You don't know you don't have Coronavirus
Me: I don't have Coronavirus
GF: How do you know?
Me: If had Coronavirus, it would be much worse than this
GF: Coronavirus doesn't get really bad until two weeks
Me: I don't have Coronavirus
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:07pm GMT on 11th Mar
Who needs a girlfriend when I can just read your interactions with yours?
cb361 said @ 10:57pm GMT on 11th Mar
GF: I'm depressed
ME: Why are you depressed?
GF: The fucking Qing dynasty
ME: You're depressed about the Qing dynasty.
GF: They poison each other!
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:21pm GMT on 12th Mar
Not anymore, they don't.
cb361 said @ 6:56pm GMT on 12th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
GF: It's brave of me to sleep with you, without even wearing a face mask.
steele said @ 7:42am GMT on 11th Apr [Score:1 Good]
You doing alright?
NuncEstBibendum said[1] @ 6:50pm GMT on 12th Apr
Yes, dear steele, thanks.
I finished yesterday my fifteen days shift with the kid, and now I'm working my ass off (trying to, at least: my ability to focus these days is quite low).
Here in Milan the situation is still very bad; but now we are in such a good company, I can't complain.
How about you?
steele said @ 2:19am GMT on 13th Apr [Score:1 Informative]
Glad to hear you're okay.

Things are weird right now. My grandfather finally passed away thursday (non-covid related) after a while in hospice and now I've gotta sort all his affairs and start my life over while the Earth is seemingly closed. It's making things a bit difficult... My original plans of taking an actual vacation to decompress after being a caregiver to my grandparents for a number of years or getting back on the road travelling/camping have all been indefinitely suspended. Can't donate his belongings because all the charity shops are closed, and now I'm pretty much trying to decide which friend or family member (some with plans to quarantine me for 2 weeks) to shack up with for who knows how long.

It's all very surreal.
Paracetamol said @ 1:58pm GMT on 8th Mar
Condolences! You want to establish a daily morning update of your Camus time?
Paracetamol said @ 1:59pm GMT on 8th Mar
Hm, maybe daily updates just fuel the sense of panic.
NuncEstBibendum said @ 2:12pm GMT on 8th Mar

Paracetamol said @ 10:11am GMT on 10th Mar
BTW: Do you work from home / care for your family – or do you need … ahem … free game keys?
NuncEstBibendum said[3] @ 11:02am GMT on 10th Mar
I quit gaming long ago, thanks :*

Anyway: I'm a separated dad, of a 6 years old kid (he stays one week with me, one with his mother).
We are essentially confined at home; grandfathers are, sadly — and for obvious reasons —, banned.

It isn't easy. But it's way too soon to complain. We are just at the beginning of this ominous shit.

...Sounds quite strange, uhu? It feels unreal even to me (hence the category of the post was, originally, "virtual reality").
steele said @ 5:51pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
(hence the category of the post was, originally, "virtual reality").

Yeah, I fixed that. Please don't do that, as the categories are supposed to make it easier to find things.
NuncEstBibendum said @ 6:18pm GMT on 10th Mar
...I know, I'm a pirlone. It won't happen again.
Paracetamol said @ 11:48am GMT on 10th Mar
Nope, being 2 borders away planning similar moves is not that far-fetched.

But the radio just said you can still go shopping – so no food stashing, right?
NuncEstBibendum said[4] @ 2:09pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
Not yet. The real problem is that every level of institutions works (and speaks) for itself: two hours ago the governor of Lombardy — our region — declared that means of transportation and shops could shut down (long story short: our local public healthcare system, one of the best in Europe, has been shrunk during the last 20 years in order to advantage the private one; now he fears to be the scapegoat of a hard awakening); you can figure out the effect on people of such a worrying and vague declaration.
moriati said @ 10:05pm GMT on 8th Mar
Possibly the opportunity for the greatest heist Milan has ever seen ...?
NuncEstBibendum said[2] @ 11:42pm GMT on 8th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
Not my first thought, sincerely.
On the other hand, we already had some mass hysteria waves in the supermakets. So Romero. And a massive prison riot, with three victims, just a few hours ago.
Anyway: the situation is quite bad. COVID-19 mortality raises violently — even between people under 50 and 40 years old — when the healthcare capacity reaches the saturation. That's almost the case already, here in Lombardy (an area which represents the health system excellence in Italy: the rest of the country is in worse shape); and we are just at the beginning of an exponential growth. The rumors from the hospitals are frightening.
zarathustra said @ 2:53am GMT on 9th Mar
Best wishes to you and to your family ( and country). I'm sorry you have to go through this and grateful that you and your country have the will and the good will to do what not only protects yourselves as individuals, but all of us in other places as well.
NuncEstBibendum said[2] @ 7:19am GMT on 9th Mar
I wouldn't bee too optimistic; actually, we are doing too little and too late. The only approach strong enough for this situation would be the Chinese one: a little bit too totalitarian, for our western habits.
However, thanks. A lot. :)

[en passant: apparently, I can't mod some comments from the SEr fellows: is it a precocious symptom of the virus, or a technical issue? steele!]
steele said @ 12:45am GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Classy Pr0n]
Mod then reply?
NuncEstBibendum said @ 12:51am GMT on 10th Mar
The old Golden Rule!
Sorry, I'm a little rusty, I forgot it.
steele said @ 12:57am GMT on 10th Mar
No worries. I think you can actually mod and reply at the same time.
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:13pm GMT on 9th Mar
It won't quite kill a third of the population, but COVID-19 will end up being the Black Death of the 21st century.
NuncEstBibendum said[1] @ 1:38pm GMT on 9th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
One of them, more likely (you'll excuse my from-the-quarantine mood).
Bruceski said @ 5:26pm GMT on 9th Mar
Some friends of mine took off on a trip to Europe and Italy was closed by the time they landed. Their itinerary has now moved to Plan B(erlin)
Paracetamol said @ 7:39pm GMT on 12th Mar
They shall take care as well – a bunch of cases have been contracted in clubs:

Berlin Parties On, Despite the Coronavirus

Some of the German capital’s renowned clubs were said to be caught between bankruptcy and virus prevention, and there are plenty of people who are determined to keep dancing.

NuncEstBibendum said[2] @ 5:10pm GMT on 10th Mar
Personal update. Some mild symptoms and fever: enough, with the current protocols, to keep myself contained at home. I'll have to wait to see my kid.

...Two things: this isn't a stupid experiment in fiction, and, above all, I'm in no hurry to meet our dear Trigorin (nor JOECAM — as far as we know).
steele said @ 5:49pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Damn. Take care, get plenty of rest. Maybe fly to DC and go on a whitehouse tour... just brainstorming.
NuncEstBibendum said @ 6:07pm GMT on 10th Mar

[I'd type you a heart, but it messes with our html]
mechanical contrivance said @ 7:03pm GMT on 10th Mar
This is SE. Type a cock.
NuncEstBibendum said @ 7:49pm GMT on 10th Mar
I'm typing this with my quarantined cock; I hope that's fine too.
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:13pm GMT on 10th Mar [Score:1 Good]
That's the SE way.
CyberNews 2138 said @ 9:36pm GMT on 10th Mar
And in the early 21st Century, the world's population of nerds were killed off by a virulent cock-virus, spread by sharing dirty keyboards.
NuncEstBibendum said[1] @ 4:35pm GMT on 11th Mar
W.H.O.: it's officially pandemic.
NuncEstBibendum said[2] @ 11:46pm GMT on 14th Mar
Milan by night.
Paracetamol said[1] @ 8:32pm GMT on 23rd Apr
NuncEstBibendum said @ 11:17am GMT on 25th Apr
It would be nice. But "ambitious" is the point.
...Anyway, Milan is still going bad, at present worse than the rest of Lombardy.
Paracetamol said @ 5:29pm GMT on 25th Apr [Score:1 Informative]
Oh man, that is one heavy time. Here measures are loosened and people seem less careful since Easter. Next weeks will show how this'll play out.
Numbers are still going down, but they closed some hospitals due to spreading too many cases.

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