How to Create a Mind -
The Secret of Human Thought Revealed
quote [ Many of these men (and women, too) would never admit that their hatred of Clinton was linked to her gender. She?s untrustworthy, they said?more so than a candidate who openly, compulsively lies more than any other candidate in recent memory. She?s corrupt, she has baggage, she?s shrill, she?s cold. Clinton was far from a perfect candidate, and there were lots of level-headed reasons to disagree with her. But it?s hard to look at the surplus of pure contempt lobbed at her over the years and not attribute it at least partly to the fact that she?s a woman. ]
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sanepride said @ 6:08pm GMT on 13th March
We're kind of going in circles here (again), aren't we? What seems logical isn't the same as what is logical. If it helps, I'll acknowledge my educated, elitist bias in understanding the basic principles of cause and effect and scientific method, which no doubt many Trump voters may not. To name one obvious easy example, there's climate change. This is a matter of scientific fact, easily observed and demonstrated. Deniers may present a bunch of arguments that seem logical to them, but that doesn't make them factual. Even in politics, there's still such a thing as objective truth, even if it isn't as well-regarded as it once was.
And there's the issue of voting against one's self-interest. Just because someone may be convinced otherwise doesn't make it true.
sanepride said @ 6:13pm GMT on 13th March
We're kind of going in circles here (again), aren't we? What seems logical isn't the same as what is logical. If it helps, I'll acknowledge my educated, elitist bias in understanding the basic principles of cause and effect and scientific method, which no doubt many Trump voters may not. To name one obvious easy example, there's climate change. This is a matter of scientific fact, easily observed and demonstrated. Deniers may present a bunch of arguments that seem logical to them, but that doesn't make them factual. Even in politics, there's still such a thing as objective truth, even if it isn't as well-regarded as it once was.
And there's the issue of voting against one's self-interest. Just because someone may be convinced otherwise doesn't make it true.
It's one thing to sympathize with and try to understand the reasons people voted for Trump. But, especially as the administration veers definitively toward the regressive in every respect, that's not the same as defending their decisions as 'reasoned' or 'logical' in any objective way. There seems little doubt now that these folks screwed themselves, whether they want to acknowledge it or not.
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sanepride said @ 6:08pm GMT on 13th March [Score:1 Underrated]
We're kind of going in circles here (again), aren't we? What seems logical isn't the same as what is logical. If it helps, I'll acknowledge my educated, elitist bias in understanding the basic principles of cause and effect and scientific method, which no doubt many Trump voters may not. To name one obvious easy example, there's climate change. This is a matter of scientific fact, easily observed and demonstrated. Deniers may present a bunch of arguments that seem logical to them, but that doesn't make them factual. Even in politics, there's still such a thing as objective truth, even if it isn't as well-regarded as it once was.
And there's the issue of voting against one's self-interest. Just because someone may be convinced otherwise doesn't make it true.
It's one thing to sympathize with and try to understand the reasons people voted for Trump. But, especially as the administration veers definitively toward the regressive in every respect, that's not the same as defending their decisions as 'reasoned' or 'logical' in any objective way. There seems little doubt now that these folks screwed themselves, whether they want to acknowledge it or not.