See also Black Mirror S3E1, "Nosedive".

Black Mirror S03E01 - Nosedive


Better copies without the offset.

So yeah I would be the brother or truck driver who doesn't give a fuck about their 'social credit score', being that I have no actual social media presence (yeah I know FB shadow profile etc etc).

This is my social media presence.

Mine, too.

You do get that money is also a form of scoring for a socially maintained game, right?

Money? Ha. What's that?

As great apes, hell, even as mammals, we really can't get away from social scoring, whether it be who gets to mate first or who has the most impeccably manicured lawn and privacy fence. True social equality is worthy goal, but until we can rewire the rear 3/4 of our brains, we are stuck with social hierarchies and the markers there of.

I found the part about China's "Social Credit Score" which measures your loyalty to the government very interesting. Think that's part of future plans here, or is it already in place and we're just not being told?

Here it's corporate loyalty that matters, and that's already started. There are businesses you can't patronize unless you have a Facebook account, and there are companies that demand to see your social media accounts before they hire your for a job.

There's also the NSA "watchlist" which is no longer a watchlist in the typical sense but would be a system of weightings that would score your subversion potential based on who you communicate with, where you go, who else goes there, etc. Basically a paranoid weaponization of all the collected metadata that isn't supposed to be violating our privacy.

It really reminds me of syndicate or armored core where it's not nations fighting its companies.

I've never encountered a company that required a Facebook account to buy from them. I'm really curious! Could you give some examples?

The demanding to see your social media accounts si some bullshit. Its illegal to ask for login credentials now (I think), but they can still ask you to log into your account on their computer (so they can get those credentials anyway). That shit needs to be illegal - you shouldn't need to log into ANYTHING, be it Facebook, email, or Pokemon Go, for a job application/interview.

Saying, "I'm sorry, I can't, its against the Facebook TOS." probably isn't going to help much.

The protections in place for corporate free speech - be it data collected on private citizens or what they can put in advertising - are absolutely ridiculous. This is an area that needs drastic reform and regulation.

I do wonder how much of this social cooling is people coming to terms with the fact that you can't just say whatever you like on the internet under your real name and expect no backlash. Its actually quite similar to how the real world works!

The article is a bit histrionic. We aren't losing our fucking humanity because we are self-censoring what we post online. We aren't losing our ability to evolve as a society. This is an example of society evolving.

Comparing it to global warming is completely inappropriate and out of place.

Do you think if we had facebook 25 years ago we'd be celebrating pride month with a rainbow reaction and pride memes all over the place? I can pretty much guarantee that wouldn't be the case. Because people were still getting fired and dealing with social strife for that shit back then. Hell, I'm visiting with a buddy and watching Friends in the evening over dinner, and late 90s they were still using homosexuality as a regular insult to masculinity.

What are people keeping to themselves now, that would or could be socially acceptable in the future? The majority of people on my facebook feed have no problem with talking about sitting down for a drink in the evenings or on their day off, but I know plenty of people that partake of weed that never utter a word about it online. Now that can easily change as recreation legalization spreads across the country, but it could just as easily shift the other way so that the drinkers feel the need to be circumspect with how much of their social life they're willing to talk about because their health insurance company might see it. As our data becomes more and more militarized against us the latter seems much more likely.

Because here's the thing; Big Data is racist, it's sexist, it can keep you from getting a job, it can keep you from getting a home loan. But Big Data is also the foundation of our future, and that makes a society that ignores the drawbacks of Big Data the prisoner of whomever's got the reins of it.

Would you like to know more? :)

Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy
Who Owns the Future?

I'm against Big Data. That shit would be regulated and limited.

I'm against using FB to discriminate against people.

I'm just cool with people realizing that maybe its stupid to post about doing something illegal or or bigoted and censoring themselves a bit.

Yes, but just a comment ago, you introduced this idea that it's people being more polite or whatever about what they say and then used it to rail against this post which is about the dangers of Big Data. Surely you see my issue with this right?

Zootopia - how to answer interview questions

Because this article says any and all self-censorship is bad. I say only some of it is bad.

Alright, but if you were a lab rat, would you rather be put in with the set of rats that were rewarded when they went towards the center of their enclosure or with the set of rats that were shocked everytime they veered too close to an invisible boundary around the perimeter? Do you think those two groups would behave the same?

You're talking to the person who bought a Pavlok to shock herself out of her bad habits.

Lol, good point.

If you don't have anything to hide any unpopular opinions, you have nothing to worry about!

Much like living in a small town, where you are literally being watched and judged at all times. There's some social cooling.

When you're being watched at all times by the law enforcement and the local magnates, that's not a small town, it's a plantation. And yeah, there was definitely some social cooling going on.