Friday, 26 May 2017

General election 2017: Workers' rights v robo jobs - a quandary for all campaigns

quote [ Artificial intelligence will have a huge impact on jobs - so are the parties still committed to it? ]
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[by XregnaR@11:33amGMT]

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steele said @ 2:11pm GMT on 26th May [Score:2 Underrated]
If a political party's solution to AI is training and job creation then they don't understand the problem at hand. While we don't have general AI available to us we're far more advanced than most people realize.

The most simple way of understanding where we currently are with AI is this: If you have input data and if you have output data, feeding that information to a properly designed neural network will result in a program capable of learning and performing the steps in between. It's not rocket science, it's literally mash shit together and the computer figures out the rest.

So, any job that has a paper trail or is done on a machine that stores the steps the operator takes, is a valid contender for the chopping block of the AI executioner.

Just to spell it out, any retraining you're going to expect from some 40+ year old person to undergo will probably be for an occupation that an AI will soon be capable of doing faster, for cheaper.

The current system is obsolete, and so is our way of thinking about it.
youchoose said[1] @ 12:12am GMT on 27th May
Its coming fast and theres not too many jobs that are safe from it. Even programming to an extent.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/ai-write-code-microsoft
steele said @ 3:27am GMT on 27th May
And all it takes is a handful of players with money to invest in a few streamlined, up to date competitive business models and they'll be able to tank and dominate just about any market like Uber did to Cabs or Walmart did to Mom & Pop shops. Depending on the timeframe you prefer looking at things through, we're either kinda shuffling around the starting line of a race to the bottom, or we're smack dab in the midst of it.
youchoose said @ 3:25pm GMT on 27th May
Being in the middle of a lot of the tech environments, I'd say in the midst of it. A lot of people have blinders on and either don't want to recognize it or admit it, but its there. Even just the amount of automation work going on in programming/QA is staggering.
steele said @ 4:04pm GMT on 27th May
I would tend to agree, but I I figured I'd leave an option for people who don't think large scale. Personally, I found the whole thing to be more of an economic ideology issue than a tech issue. That's the reason Walmart and Uber's business models are so equatable. Capitalism at its purist form is slavery. Even hundreds of years later we still find ourselves sliding back towards a society where the corporations have more and more control over our personal lives and how we're allowed to behave off the clock. It's an ideology that infects how we vote, who we defend, who we attack, and what's socially appropriate. There's nothing inherently wrong with profit, but we put profit before people and have convinced people that it's better for them.

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