Sunday, 5 March 2017
quote [ Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper says that he knew of no FISA-approved wiretap activity against the Trump campaign. ]
And true to form Trump doubles down on Bullshit. Caught in a lie...no comment and accuse the other guy
White House Says It Will No Longer Comment On Trump’s Wiretapping Claim White House press secretary Sean Spicer called on Congress to investigate the allegation.
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yunnaf said @ 8:17pm GMT on 5th Mar
[Score:1 Underrated]
Clapper testified under oath to Congress that the government wasn't domestically spying on Americans. Then came Snowden.
Clapper is not a reliable news source. |
bbqkink said @ 8:24pm GMT on 5th Mar
Oh Quit...
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DreamJournalingFS said @ 11:22pm GMT on 5th Mar
"Clapper is not a reliable news source."
... but is Clapper any less reliable than Trump? I ask because it seems to me that Trump is one of the most prolific sources of fake news in America. |
bbqkink said[1] @ 11:38pm GMT on 5th Mar
Clapper was set up by Wyden with a question that Wyden already knew the answer for. Clapper didn't handle it very well but Wyden was well aware of what the NSA was doing.
Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions of Americans?" Clapper: "No, sir." Wyden: "It does not?" Clapper: "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly." Wyden: "All right. Thank you. I’ll have additional questions to give you in writing on that point, but I thank you for the answer." But that has nothing to do with the video above...there is no doubt everything he said was accurate in that interview. FBI director asked Justice Department to reject Trump's wiretapping claim |
yunnaf said[1] @ 1:47am GMT on 6th Mar
I really don't know.
Just because Trump distorts the truth doesn't make Clapper truthful. For me, Clapper mislead under oath, I find no grounds to believe he is honest. https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/trumps-wiretapping-accusations-heres-what-government-can-actually-do |
bbqkink said @ 1:10pm GMT on 6th Mar
Trump distorts the truth...haha
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bbqkink said @ 5:57pm GMT on 5th Mar
This is most definitely politics...
While we were distracted by Trump, Republicans advanced these 9 terrifying bills |
sanepride said[1] @ 6:16pm GMT on 5th Mar
In truth these particular bills are mostly too extreme to be really 'terrifying'. They have no real chance of passing, it's ideological red meat for the snarling base. It's what they sneak into omnibus spending bills and budgets- specific program defunding etc that's the really dangerous stuff.
But the more relevant point here is all of Trump's unhinged fuming about wiretaps etc is indeed deliberate distraction- from his own Russia scandal and increasingly unpopular policy moves. For example- people might want to keep their eyes on this- Pentagon plan to seize Raqqa calls for significant increase in U.S. participation. The start of Trump's Vietnam? Stay tuned. |
bbqkink said @ 6:42pm GMT on 5th Mar
Raqqa was always going to be a tough nut. This situation like all others is made more complicated by our commander in chief. We have no idea of policy or competency or sanity for that mater.
I'm guessing plans for this operation were in place before the change in power. And if past is prologue Trump will leave the nuts and blots to Centcom...maybe |
bbqkink said @ 7:52pm GMT on 5th Mar
Case in point Now is he so in tune with the situation he can troll Arnold at the same time make life and death decisions and then have a little extra time to accuse Obama of espionage...or was he Just reading Brietbart and Alex Jones and thought he would poke at his buddy on the TV show?
Somebody is making decisions if it ain't Trump Who TF is it? |
sanepride said @ 11:08pm GMT on 5th Mar
Bannon.
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sanepride said @ 11:15pm GMT on 5th Mar
Remember it was Trump who made the promise to 'destroy ISIS'. Obama never had much interest in getting directly involved in Syria. No doubt the Pentagon always has a number of potential plans in development, but this deal is Trump all the way.
Except of course if it goes badly, it'll be Obama's fault. |
bbqkink said @ 11:46pm GMT on 5th Mar
Oh I think he wants more than anything to be the hero...and that makes him just as dangerous as Bush....Bush with a Mental problem.
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captainstubing said @ 12:43pm GMT on 6th Mar
So...Bush?
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bbqkink said[1] @ 1:56pm GMT on 6th Mar
Well I said at the time and still believe that Bush was the worst president of modern time. Based mostly but not solely on the taking the country to war in Iraq on known false facts.
That war is still killing people, here and abroad has destabilized the entire region, was fought for nothing and has made every bodies life on all sides worse. He also wrecked the US economy by cutting taxes for the rich and putting the wars he started on the credit card in the process further deregulating the banking industry, bankrupting the country and damn near destroying the whole world economy. Now Trump has not done anything like that ...yet. but he has only had 45 days. But as far as insanity, causing distrust of the world. the courts, and the inelegance community...add to that a basic dishonest and racist stench to all things Presidential ....no comparison, Trump is by far the worst thing we have seen. |
HoZay said[1] @ 11:46pm GMT on 5th Mar
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(It is also not politics its news.)