Wednesday, 11 January 2017

Yellow is the New Orange

quote [ @realDonaldTrump

FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT! ]

Trump would like his inauguration to be about "soft sensuality." With reports in that he likes golden showers, I can only recoil in horror as to what that might imply for the crowds gathered that day.

Edit: 4chan's /pol/ is attempting to take credit for the story. It's possible, but take it with a grain of salt as they have been claiming this for multiple bad press stories for Trump. Also, take this story with as much of a grain of salt as well, obviously.
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[by kylemcbitch@3:03amGMT]

Comments

midden said[2] @ 3:13am GMT on 11th Jan
I read that the last time he called something a "total political witch hunt," it was about the accusations of fraud for Trump University, and look how that turned out - a $25,000,000.00 settlement paid by Mr. Yellow.
papango said @ 3:18am GMT on 11th Jan
Because why the fuck not, 2017?
2017 said @ 3:24am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:5 Funny]
Hold my beer.
KingPellinore said @ 2:11pm GMT on 11th Jan
Wait...this isn't beer.
ScoobySnacks said @ 3:28am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funsightful]
sanepride said @ 3:37am GMT on 11th Jan
The sensationalism of alleged golden showers aside, if any of this report is substantiated it's a huge bombshell confirming an unparalleled web of duplicity between Trump and Russia. Which in the world of Trump, his followers, and congressional republicans translates to 'nothing to see here, move along, and oh yeah, we're still obsessed with Hillary's emails'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who does think this is a big deal (think Watergate meets 'Manchurian Candidate'), Buzzfeed has posted the entire dossier for everyone's perusal.
To their credit they're very forthcoming about the fact that the allegations within remain unsubstantiated and unverified, which is more than we can say for the assholes who claimed that Hillary Clinton was running a child sex slave ring.
HoZay said @ 4:59am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Underrated]
Could be the route for installing Pence as president: Impeach and Replace.
sanepride said @ 5:45am GMT on 11th Jan
Could be. Amazing how fast this is escalating.
Kama-Kiri said @ 10:43am GMT on 11th Jan
The leaked report is definitely worth reading in full.

Looks pretty legit to me. British ex-MI guy doing consultancy work for Clinton oppo, hooks up with all his contacts, gets the lowdown off-the-record. It all meshes pretty cleanly with what is already known or previously hinted at.

Which is to say: Wow. Forget the prostitutes and bugged hotel rooms - the Russians do that to everyone. The main story here is that the whole Trump administration practically has "vetted by Putin" tattooed on their foreheads.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 1:39pm GMT on 11th Jan
Would he even need to vet anyone? Just winding the GOP up and letting them go do whatever they want is about the worst thing you could do to the US's stability short of using nuclear weapons.
sanepride said @ 2:03pm GMT on 11th Jan
I don't think Putin/Russia would consider a destabilized US as in their best interest, just a US led by someone they could manipulate, regardless of party affiliation. Trump, with his temperament, business ties, and even possible blackmail potential, would be their golden wet dream.
Kama-Kiri said @ 11:44pm GMT on 11th Jan
Taking the report contents into this, it looks like it started out a opportunistic way to get back at the US for the sanctions etc. It was actively supporting Trump, but not on the specific expectation that he would win.

I thought it was interesting that Putin's people were divided on the idea, quite a few thinking it was a bad idea ... since, well, since what has happened might happen.
bbqkink said[1] @ 3:59am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]
Wild unsubstantiated rumors about Trump...well should we start calling him Kinky Donald...maybe the PP President. I heard he got so excited over the smell of this one girls P that he fell in love with her...and from that monment on started dying his hair orange to match the shade of the Piss.
kylemcbitch said @ 4:21am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Informative]
Yes, unsubstantiated however I am actually leaning towards is plausability because of Tevfik Arif a friend of Trump who was busted running an underage sex ring from his yacht.
papango said @ 6:19am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:2]
It doesn't matter whether it happened or not.

The interesting thing about this story is how quickly the Trump people (and I'm including the pizzagate and all that) lost control of the 'fake news' tiger once they unleashed it.
sanepride said @ 2:15pm GMT on 11th Jan
A valid point, but you could also argue that by hiding behind a wall of opacity- refusing to release tax returns or deal with the press in any open, credible manner, Trump and team have invited this shit storm of speculation.
Based on what we already know about the man, his personality and dealings, it's all plausible.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 4:14pm GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Insightful]
What it's allowed for as well is an air of false equivalency. I saw an image from someone "tired" of all the nastiness and used as an illustration two heads yelling at each other. The one labeled "THE LEFT" was yelling "RACIST!" while the one labeled "THE RIGHT" was yelling "CUCK!"

The two aren't remotely equivalent. Racism is a huge-ass problem and is going to be for a very long time. There are racists, and they support the right wing of this country. Being able to dismiss it as mere "name calling" is probably a goal of de-legitimizing everything.
kylemcbitch said @ 7:27pm GMT on 11th Jan
I guess I will say the unpopular thing...

Racism is a problem, it's true. One of the biggest ones we have, but the way it's presented by.. well, these hip, liberal, clickbait news sites we have has really fucked us over and fanned the flame of this bullshit.

It's almost impossible to meet the standards they set, and failure means being called sexist and racist. Surprise, surprise... when you call everyone sexist and racist you encourage the actual sexist and racists to come out of the wood work.

The best example I have for this is MTV News recent disaster "New Years Resolutions for White Guys."

Identity politics is poison.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 10:31pm GMT on 11th Jan
So calling out actual racism makes more racists?

Was that MLK's big mistake?
kylemcbitch said @ 10:34pm GMT on 11th Jan
No, I am not saying that. I am saying that when everyone is made to be a racist... no one is racist any more. That is the problem with identity politics, it's diminishing returns over time where you must get more and more ludicrous and demanding.
foobar said @ 5:37am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:2 Funny]
USA! USA! USA!

You're number 1!
kylemcbitch said @ 5:55am GMT on 11th Jan
4chan's /pol/ is attempting to take credit for the story. It's possible, but take it with a grain of salt as they have been claiming this for multiple bad press stories for Trump.
HoZay said @ 6:03am GMT on 11th Jan
Wadysseus said @ 7:12am GMT on 11th Jan
Heh, "mop up."
HoZay said @ 7:54am GMT on 11th Jan
Urine a heap of trouble now.
KingPellinore said @ 2:00pm GMT on 11th Jan
Urea-lly fucked it up now!
kylemcbitch said @ 10:07pm GMT on 11th Jan
Shake it off.
Seneki said @ 10:25pm GMT on 11th Jan
But that'll dampen the mood!
kylemcbitch said @ 10:32pm GMT on 11th Jan
There you go, Russian to conclusions.
Seneki said @ 10:46pm GMT on 11th Jan
Ok that one was passable.
Seneki said @ 10:11pm GMT on 11th Jan
Urethree puns so far...
kylemcbitch said @ 7:20am GMT on 11th Jan
"As Americans, we should be concerned that the intelligence agencies leaked to the press..."

Excuse me?

While I certainly agree with that sentiment, I am suddenly reminded of when the FBI did it weeks before the election and there was an entirely different response from team Trump.
HoZay said @ 7:50am GMT on 11th Jan
cb361 said @ 4:13pm GMT on 11th Jan
Leaked to the press... Tee hee.
kylemcbitch said @ 7:24am GMT on 11th Jan
Ankylosaur said @ 6:10am GMT on 11th Jan
Has anyone coined "Pissergate" yet?
HoZay said @ 7:43am GMT on 11th Jan
TooFuckingLateGate.
hellboy said @ 7:52am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Underrated]
Watersportsgate.
spazm said @ 10:46am GMT on 11th Jan
Golden OrangeShowerGate
pleaides said @ 6:53am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:5 Funny]
Seen on the twitters;

NIXON: No way can you pull off a more scandal-ridden presidency than I did.

TRUMP: Hold my beer.

NIXON: Wait this isn’t beer
pleaides said @ 8:41am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]
And another one;

Urethra Franklin confirmed to sing at Inauguration.
HoZay said @ 9:02am GMT on 11th Jan
With R. Kelly
kylemcbitch said @ 10:05pm GMT on 11th Jan
Guys, guys... lets stop taking the piss out of Trump.

He needs it for later.
kylemcbitch said @ 9:03am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:3 Funny]
What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chick pea?

Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.
kylemcbitch said @ 10:05pm GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]
Trump has always been a fan of trickle-down economics.
HoZay said @ 9:33am GMT on 11th Jan
They'll probably be able to discredit the golden showers part of the story as unprovable and just too outrageous, then try to extend that to discredit the rest of the story. Corporate media might go along with that, but he'll never be able to shake off that pee. This is at least a Santorum-level event.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 1:50pm GMT on 11th Jan
It probably doesn't help his case that people like former British Prime Minister Cameron is alleged to have stuck his dick in a pig's head.
midden said @ 9:40pm GMT on 11th Jan
So we need to name some pee related kink, "Trumping."
HoZay said @ 9:48am GMT on 11th Jan
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 1:40pm GMT on 11th Jan
Is 4chan claiming they broke the story or are they claiming the story is a giant troll on their part? Because didn't these morons work to get Trump elected?
kylemcbitch said @ 1:58pm GMT on 11th Jan
4chan is bigger than that. In this case, if you mean /pol/ then yes, /pol/ absolutely in camp Trump for the most part.

They are claiming that they planted the story, and have been claiming to have planted various stories since last October/November. The story goes they supplied a story to Rick Wilson who in turn gave it to the CIA. There are several problems with this narrative, the first being the fact that /pol/ has been inconsistent to say the least. Yes, you will find logs talking about trolling Rick Wilson back in October and November stating that he was going to supply a bonus October surprise directed at Trump that they arranged.

The issue with this, of course, is that they have claimed several news reports are this bogus leak since that initial claim. So, until OP stops being a faggot and published the transcripts I wouldn't believe it.

The other issue of course that Rick Wilson was not the source of this.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 4:26pm GMT on 11th Jan
Yes, I mean /pol/.

If they're all for Trump, how does this "October Surprise" benefit their cause? If it's fake and they did plant it, there are many who will never believe it was fake, which hurts Trump. If it's real and they're trying to paint it as fake, then they get the same result along with even more people convinced Trump is awful.

This is really bad spin on their part.
kylemcbitch said @ 5:19pm GMT on 11th Jan
Actually, I follow their logic here.

Plant a fake story, people get outraged, then "lol, trolled ya!"

Then, even if a bunch of people believe you now have a in-built excuse for all future negative reports. "Those people will believe anything!"

Which is directed at the REAL target: swing voters. We believe these things about Trump because we want to. They don't, and if you can brush away criticism by brushing away the critics, you win.

I hate to recommend it, but you should read Joseph Goebbels. Clearly they have, because this is his playbook.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 6:30pm GMT on 11th Jan
Oh, I'm well aware. The flaw is that we've seen this both work and backfire. We're also already in a climate of echo chambers and politics = religion so fuck facts, which you'd think they would've cottoned onto by now.

Also, saying "ha, trolled ya" damages their own credibility, which they (surprisingly) still have in some quarters.
kylemcbitch said @ 7:15pm GMT on 11th Jan
Their credibility doesn't matter, they are easily deniable assets, because let's face it... they aren't coordinating this with anyone.

I agree, it does backfire fairly often. But I wouldn't be surprised that if this was finally the fake story they claim they planted, that it's literally just the pee thing they faked and everything else is real... at which point you will see them poison the whole well and none of it sticks to the Donald.
HoZay said @ 8:24pm GMT on 11th Jan
Similar to the way Dan Rather was ratfucked.
bbqkink said[1] @ 4:08pm GMT on 11th Jan
cb361 said @ 4:16pm GMT on 11th Jan
This guy is an insecure narcissist who just "Got The Bomb", so perhaps it's in all our best interests to stop giving him things to be thin-skinned about, and encourage him to mellow out.
knumbknutz said @ 4:40pm GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]


Donnie - please.
HP Lovekraftwerk said @ 4:53pm GMT on 11th Jan
That confused me for a second, because we have a user here named donnie. He's the best donnie, the greatest donnie, believe me.
Seneki said @ 10:14pm GMT on 11th Jan
Shut the fuck up Donnie!
knumbknutz said @ 7:06pm GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]
He had a press conference today...I tried to follow the live stream but it got interrupted
kylemcbitch said @ 10:06pm GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Funny]
You know, now that I think about it, when Trump said he'd approve waterboarding, I thought it was monsterous.

Now I just think it's unsanitary.

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