Tuesday, 10 January 2017

Jury sentences Dylann Roof to death for Charleston church slayings

quote [ The self-described white supremacist says his deadly attack on black parishioners at a Bible study meeting in 2015 was not motivated by hatred of black people. ]

I don't favor the death penalty, but it seems to be part of this guy's plan.
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[by HoZay@10:14pmGMT]

Comments

sanepride said @ 11:04pm GMT on 10th Jan [Score:1 Interesting]
And yet, he's already requested a new trial and seems to be wanting to fight his sentence, despite being not only unrepentant but even proud of his crime. I've got to admit, a hardcore fucking asshole like Roof challenges my steadfast opposition to the death penalty. The guy really does deserve to die, and I'll shed no tears when he does, but in the end the true test of a civilized society is still how we treat our most detestable members.
Bleb said @ 11:21pm GMT on 10th Jan [Score:2]
I've always thought that capital punishment was sort of an easy way out. What's worse? Dying, or spending 60 years in an 8 x 12 box and then dying?
sanepride said @ 12:07am GMT on 11th Jan
Our natural propensity is to survive, even under the most adverse circumstances. Knowing your are facing your inevitable demise- the years on death row, the preparation, the macabre rituals of execution- does not at all seem like the 'easy way out'.
hellboy said @ 11:27pm GMT on 10th Jan [Score:1 Insightful]
His goal isn't to win on appeal, it's to get more attention.
sanepride said @ 12:02am GMT on 11th Jan
That may be true, but he did specifically request an appeal of the sentence, not the verdict. He never challenged his actual guilt.
hellboy said @ 7:55am GMT on 11th Jan
What, and let someone else take all the credit?
gma said @ 2:24am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Underrated]
I get what you mean, but it doesn't change my opinion on the death penalty at all. I do not object to putting to death the worst of the worst, the unquestionably guilty, the ones sure to kill again if given the opportunity. This is one of those cases.

I just don't trust the justice system to limit itself to those extremely rare cases that have no doubt. I have no problem with Roof being executed, but I'd much rather see him live another 70 years in prison than have my government execute someone innocent.
WeiYang said @ 10:39pm GMT on 10th Jan
Yes. It IS part of his plan. He wants to be a martyr for RAHOWA. He should be locked in the Special Housing unit of the east podunk jail, with the stoolies and weaklings, and forgotten.
Hugh E. said @ 12:06am GMT on 11th Jan
He should be set free. Muammar Gaddafi knows what I'm talking about.
SnappyNipples said @ 12:10am GMT on 11th Jan
I laughed at the rhetoric he used, Its all about how everyone hates him. LOL
alloy said @ 1:40am GMT on 11th Jan
Only way this guy could get any attention was by murdering black people in a church. Any guesses on the mental age of this guy?

Ugh the mind of a killer is a really fucked up thing to ponder. Never again!
eidolon said @ 5:43am GMT on 12th Jan
What does this accomplish that life imprisonment doesn't? State-sanctioned murder is culpable in why we think it's ok to kill people sometimes. In some cases, we decorate state-sanctioned murderers as heroes. The fact that we categorize some killings as murders (personally motivated killings) and others as acts of heroism (legal and political killings at the behest of another entity), shows how much we've learned to accept that the ends justify the means when it comes to executions. We hold that killing is wrong and the ends don't justify the means, but then completely ignore (and get offended at being exposed to) the blind spots we have in this logic. Why? Because it makes us uncomfortable.

The lines we draw on what makes one killing acceptable, or even good, versus what makes it unacceptable can get murky. It's easy to categorize Roof's killings as unacceptable because they were motivated by hate, but when a solider kills someone for what amount to socio-economic reasons and extreme otherfication of people from other countries... why is it so easy to categorize that as heroism? Why is it greed for a mugger to shoot a victim, but not for a government to fight a battle for a sea port? Why must the collective will always somehow be selfless when it results in similar ends to the selfish individual will?

If we want to make killing unacceptable, then there shouldn't be exceptions. Lock this asshole up. Create a kinder, gentler world where people aren't ready to kill eachother for hate or because an authority told them to do it.

It's not that I don't get people. I do. It frustrates me. It wouldn't if I didn't believe we were capable of better. If I didn't earnestly believe in people and our capacity to reason and feel compassion, I wouldn't be disappointed when we fail to see our own hypocrisy, cruelty, and stupidity.

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