Thursday, 17 March 2022

U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent

quote [ The U.S. Senate on Tuesday passed legislation that would make daylight saving time permanent starting in 2023, ending the twice-annual changing of clocks in a move promoted by supporters advocating brighter afternoons and more economic activity. ]

Hopefully Biden comes through on this. Been tired of this ish for a minute. Although, I did hear that the US had a similar law in the 70s and everyone dislike it.
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[by rylex@2:01pmGMT]


conception said @ 6:44pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:3 Informative]
Here's your DST Factoid Newsletter!

Two schools of thought.
Standard Time (sunset earlier) is better for circadian rhythms and sleep patterns.
Daylight Savings Time better for doing stuff. (It was originally proposed by George Hudson, an entomologist, who basically was like "fuck you all I think we should fuck everything up so I can have more time to check out butterflies" and managed to have that enacted in New Zealand and then Britain and then on from there.)
Federal law allows for a change to permanent Standard Time if states vote for it, but DOESN'T allow for permanent Daylight Savings Time
That's because of the Uniform Time Act of 1966, which standardizes either always Standard Time or DST at prescribed intervals (originally 2a last Sunday in April to 2a last Sunday October, but amended a couple times to stretch it to first weekend April, then to second Sunday March and pushed back into November so now 8 months are on DST). Before 1966, Time Zones changed city to city (let alone state to state).
So 18 states have passed permanent DST but can't implement it due to federal law.
Arizona is on permanent Standard Time
So is Hawaii
Indiana was a mess from 1966 to 2006 because of a bunch of petitions and lawsuits that ended up with different parts of Indiana doing whatever the fuck they wanted.
The US actually tried permanent DST in 1974 under Nixon and it got repealed as soon as it hit winter because everyone was like "holy fuck it's cold in the mornings when it's dark" - support went from 79% to 42% in one winter.
Most medical experts support permanent Standard Time including the American Academy of Sleep Medicine
The Petroleum lobby supports permanent DST (and helped get DST passed to begin with after observing people use more gas during DST)
The 2018 California bill (Prop 7) was written to allow either permanent Standard or DST but required state legislature to approve it and they didn't do either and the bill expired.

crwk8 said @ 2:15pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:1 Funsightful]
It might not be the case for all of you, but for me, it's funny how hard it's to think of issues like this as 'politics'... but, it is politics, this is lawmaking.
steele said @ 3:50pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
This is like level 1 lawmaking and I'm still not 100% confident they're not going to fuck it up.
conception said @ 6:42pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:1 Informative]
They did, don't worry.

Luckily, this might be a "There was an error in your favor" sort of situation.
rylex said @ 4:02pm GMT on 17th Mar
fully expect it to be fucked up. thats the point of government after all.
damnit said @ 4:29pm GMT on 17th Mar
They tried this decades ago and they quickly went back... just like when they switched to metric for a bit.
Wulf said @ 4:43pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:1 Underrated]
Is it to late to add a rider to implement the metric system?
rylex said @ 4:03pm GMT on 17th Mar
i find it funny theyre pulling this now when there's so many other easy to reconcile issues. such as the ukraine war and the stance on US involvement
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:32pm GMT on 17th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
I'm fine with permanent DST. Pretty much the only way it would affect me is not driving home from work in the dark during the winter. Actually, it won't do that because I work from home. But other people won't have to drive home in the dark, and that's good.
the circus said @ 2:53am GMT on 18th Mar [Score:1 Interesting]
It's the 21st century. Any casio could follow a pattern of adjusting time plus or minus a minute 120 days out of the year. Dawn could be 6am every day year round and we wouldn't even notice it (except of course the changing day length).

That being said, many industries are going to be tied to sunlight. Plants are only going to grow in sunlight, and I don't know how well cows take to being milked in their sleep regardless of what time we say it is. These industries will change when they do things based on the sunlight. If you service one of these industries you too will be stuck operating when your clients are doing business, at their dictation. Problem is you've got a million farms, businesses, etc deciding how and when they'll adjust for changing daylight on their own. Make it a standard and everyone will adjust at once without so much chaos and disruption.

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