Sunday, 28 March 2021

Kerry: 'No government is going to solve' climate change

quote [ U.S. climate envoy John Kerry on Tuesday said he believed the private sector was more likely to find solutions to climate change than government. ]

It's all downhill from here, folks.
[SFW] [environment & nature] [+3 WTF]
[by steele@4:30amGMT]

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endopol said @ 10:10pm GMT on 28th Mar [Score:1 Sad]
Fuck. They really had me going there. Laugh it up, steele.
steele said @ 11:14pm GMT on 28th Mar
zenviper said @ 9:58am GMT on 28th Mar
Agreed. The incentives aren’t there for government in the current framework. I am not clear on why any corporation would solve it though....
steele said @ 12:19pm GMT on 28th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
IT'S HIS JOB TO CHANGE THAT FRAMEWORK!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯😅
Hugh E. said[1] @ 12:05pm GMT on 28th Mar
Can Capitalism Save Us From Capitalism?

This is a good, insightful listen. But to sum it up (per the show):

Three Takeaways:

  1. [Harvard economist Rebecca] Henderson attributes the corporate world’s sluggishness in embracing green regulations to fears about hurting their bottom line. Even if CEOs acknowledge that “climate change might be a big issue,” concerns about not hitting quarterly earnings targets supersede it. Henderson also points to a fear of going it alone: why invest time and money into decarbonizing if “my competitors are not?”

  2. When it comes to saving the world, Henderson thinks “a huge political and social and cultural movement” is required. However, she believes businesses can have a positive impact by joining together to tackle problems and catalyze change in different industries. Henderson points to Walmart lobbying for a $15 federal minimum wage (the franchise raised its own wages and wanted others to do the same) as an example of when business interests and the common good can come together.

  3. Employees are increasingly pushing their employers to align themselves with social and environmental causes. Where you work is where “your identity is bound up,” says Henderson. Accordingly, employees who care about these issues seek out places that share their concerns, and CEOs and companies are being pushed to adapt in order to hire or retain talent.

While Kerry's calcified neo-liberalism is surely disappointing (though not surprising), there are many minds and avenues at work.
steele said @ 12:18pm GMT on 28th Mar
When it comes to saving the world, Henderson thinks “a huge political and social and cultural movement” is required. However, she believes businesses can have a positive impact by joining together to tackle problems and catalyze change in different industries. Henderson points to Walmart lobbying for a $15 federal minimum wage (the franchise raised its own wages and wanted others to do the same) as an example of when business interests and the common good can come together.

LMAO, maybe using a company that treats their employees like shit and was forced into "supporting" a minimum wage that is still about $10 per hour less than where it should be if it had kept up with inflation isn't the best example of how capitalism can still work. Especially when that company is still going to be starting people at $11 per hour.

What's the rule about headlines that contain a question again?
Can Capitalism Save Us From Capitalism? NO.
Hugh E. said @ 11:52pm GMT on 28th Mar
Yes, as one listens to the interview, it is clear Henderson's answer to the titular question is 'no'. But she outlines paths that can be used and improved to help bend capitalism toward more good, rather than throwing up one's hands. If one listens, that is. And one stops searching for a silver bullet wielding Green Hornet.
steele said @ 12:35am GMT on 29th Mar
Me: Capitalism is driving us towards extinction and ruin and we really, really fucking need to do something else. There's easily a triple digit amount of books, podcasts, articles, documentaries, and research papers I've shared over the past years that discuss why, how, and the alternatives.

You: Here's a podcast that attempts to prop up what you say is 90% of what's wrong with the world. How silly of you that you won't listen to it.
Hugh E. said @ 7:22pm GMT on 29th Mar
You: It's all downhill from here, folks

Me: Not necessarily. For example, here is someone who has spent years studying the issue with a dedicated agenda towards ending laissez faire capitalism with realistic, applicable approaches that can be used to spur further movement.

You: No. Pouting is my privilege. Instant revolution or bust!

Some can't afford to throw up their hands. It's a slog, but it's a slog in which some have no choice but to engage. But, please, by all means, launch your revolution in the meantime.
steele said[2] @ 8:02pm GMT on 29th Mar
I'm not throwing up my hands, I'm being overly dramatic to a bunch of people who are either in denial or willfully ignorant to their situation.

edit: of course, that being said, we are absolutely fucked because the point of no return has probably been passed while people like you have been telling people like me to get in line for these assholes who have sold our futures our away.

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