I can't be bothered with the tawdry, borderline-xenophobic political goings-on in some damp, insular second-and-a-half world country on the edge of the civilised world.

Which is kind of unfortunate as it happens...

Stands the test if time ... sadly
#stopthecoup
billy bragg - between the wars (TOTP)

And now he has lost control of Parliament.

The first time I saw Boris Johnson was on Have I Got News For you, saying that somebody had shouted "Tory Tosser!" at him on the street, when he cycled past with his mobile-phone to his ear. He played the upper-class buffoon role very well on television, but last night was much funnier.

I wonder how much longer it will take for Britain to realize it really doesn't want Brexit, and put it to vote again. Assuming the EU doesn't go "no backsies!"

Or "pas de reprise"

What you fail to understand is the MP's (who all voted to leave following the referendum result) are the only ones who don't want to leave. The vast majority of the country does want too, immediately with or without a deal.

The only coup here is the one created by MP's who have second jobs in europe who know they're on to a good thing and regardless of how they're constituents voted they're going against the decision.

Democracy is upholding the referendum, sadly the PM has to take this stance because of the treasonous MP's not listening to the people.

To subvert us leaving on 31st October for any reason is the real coup.

If there was a referendum tomorrow with the option of leaving the EU without a deal or remaining in the EU, which would you support? (link)

AUG12 2019 data from Great Britain, United Kingdom
45% Remaining in the EU
36% Leaving the EU without a deal
19% Don't know

Blah blah blah. We're still leaving the EU. Just not the No Deal exit for which there was never a democratic mandate.

The question should never have been asked without a plan to execute leaving as part of the proposition. The referendum should have been on The Plan To Leave or Stay. (Yes, just leave is also a plan)

I don't suppose anybody at the time thought there was any possibility of a Leave result. It was just David Camerons way to head off the threat from UKIP. Now there's a guy who fucked-up big time. The result was devastating, but at the time I assumed we would quietly change to one of those independent countries with strong links to the EU, like Norway. The anti-Europeans were further emboldened though, and no faction has enough power to force the issue. Which is why we're in political deadlock. So yes. A second referrendum seems the only way to break that.

> The vast majority of the country does want too, immediately with or without a deal.


Please cite.

What's best for Putin?

Pretty sure it's not Vladimir Putin privatizing the NHS and implementing austerity programs.

When there's a destructive element already in power, why wouldn't Putin make certain they get enough funding and step back? That's his MO.

That's rich people's MO. You're at a picnic overrun with ants and you're pointing out a single one with a magnifying glass.

The wealthiest person with also the most dedication toward splitting apart NATO and the EU and decades of training and experience and contacts and full governmental services to make it happen. Find another person with necessarily lesser wealth though similar interests and they've likely been in contact to align with Putin.

You are ignoring a systemic issue while chasing the image of a supervillian created by media owned by the same rich people you're ignoring. Vladimir Putin didn't spend millions if not billions pushing neoliberal economics in colleges and schools across the western world, he didn't force our governments to privatize every facet of public works the rich could sink their greedy paws into, he didn't wage a propaganda war against unions for more than half a century, he's not the reason people are going bankrupt over health care costs. Is he an asshole influencing government and public opinion? Sure. But he's taking advantage of a situation, he didn't produce it. And focusing on him as a boogieman only ensures that exploitable situation will continue to exist.

My concern here is the splitting of NATO and the EU, Putin acting as signal booster and longtime proponent toward that goal. All else you mentioned as something Putin was uninvolved with is beyond my focus, I believe beyond Putin's focus, and that of the Brexit topic. It is clearly your focus, for which I offer no disabusing.

As for Boris Johnson's efforts toward a no-deal Brexit, we should be certain Putin is supportive, though there remains question as to Johnson's acknowledgement of, or intentional service toward, that support.

A supervillain is a fictional villain with superhuman powers. A boogeyman is a mythical creature used by adults to frighten children into good behavior.

The EU is neoliberal, its instability is guaranteed at this point. Ignore that if you like, but in the future I think you'll find it was related to your concerns after all.

Who is this Brexit everybody keeps talking about?