Thursday, 31 January 2019

OxyContin Maker Explored Expansion Into “Attractive” Anti-Addiction Market

quote [ Secret portions of a lawsuit allege that Purdue Pharma, controlled by the Sackler family, considered capitalizing on the addiction treatment boom — while going to extreme lengths to boost sales of its controversial opioid. ]

Once upon a time, this town was drug free
Now it's ruled by Oxy
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[by ScoobySnacks@6:00amGMT]

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cb361 said @ 8:06am GMT on 31st Jan
Large drug companies do seem to the closest thing to Satan that humanity has thus far invented.
arrowhen said @ 3:26pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:4 Insightful]
Wouldn't the closest thing to Satan humanity has invented be Satan?
cb361 said @ 3:42pm GMT on 31st Jan
I think those were just the early rough sketches.
Fish said @ 1:32pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:-3 Boring]
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bobolink said @ 2:51pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:0 Underrated]
No, even then. Having your life saved by the most evil bastard (troll?) in the world doesn't relieve you of the obligation to do away with said bastard (troll?) once you are healthy.
Fish said @ 5:57pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:-3 Boring]
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rylex said @ 6:51pm GMT on 1st Feb [Score:-3]
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Fish said @ 6:54pm GMT on 1st Feb [Score:-5]
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rylex said @ 5:22pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:-1 Underrated]
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foobar said @ 5:43pm GMT on 1st Feb [Score:0 Underrated]
That's just flat out wrong, and it's a harmful attitude. Some people very much do need heavy opioids, and they are in many cases the best medication for a given situation. Of course, you have to have a real medical system that allows for preventative, maintenance, and ongoing care. If you terrify your population with bankruptcy for ever going to the hospital, of course they're not going to fucking go.
rylex said[1] @ 6:46pm GMT on 1st Feb
Please look up usage of ketamine with lesser potency opioids, such as vicodin.

You will find that medical science has shown via study that this combo is as effective as oxycontin/codone and such.

Here's a quick link backing me up.

http://www.usmedicine.com/agencies/department-of-defense-dod/no-longer-just-a-horse-drug-ketamine-increasingly-used-for-military-pain-management/

I have posted this argument in another thread on this board.

foobar said @ 10:06pm GMT on 3rd Feb
It's great that they've found something with a better prognosis in some applications, but that doesn't cover all cases.
rylex said[1] @ 11:19pm GMT on 3rd Feb
It could be used to cover all cases. Just whom do you think should be given heavy opioids and for what?

I can cite another article comparing the effectiveness of ketaminre against oxycodone to help manage post operative pain. It showed no major difference, except ketamine was maybe safer and less addictive.

The only thing preventing its usage currently as I see it is ignorance and paychecks for docs who recommended opiates.

foobar said @ 5:39am GMT on 4th Feb
I really don't think you have the qualifications to have an opinion on that.
rylex said @ 5:49am GMT on 4th Feb
Do you?
foobar said @ 10:59am GMT on 4th Feb
No, which is why I defer to the opinion of the medical establishment.
rylex said[1] @ 12:41pm GMT on 4th Feb
Exactly.

Opinion of the medical establishment which perpetuated the opioid problem in the first place. 🙄

You're dodging the question about whom you think should be given heavy opiates btw.

Oh wait, I forgot you aren't qualified to offer an opinion, which negates your initial one doesn't it?
foobar said[1] @ 3:00pm GMT on 4th Feb
It's not my opinion.

If we're at the point where you're spinning conspiracy theories you might as well rail about vaccines and autism.
rylex said @ 6:18pm GMT on 4th Feb
Right.

You are being asked to state your opinion.

And i do beg you to indicate where I 'spun a conspiracy theory'.
There is proven evidence about the conspiracy to distribute oxycontin and codone in the US by its maker. Some of the execs from purdue even received criminal charges and there is ongoing litigation over this.

foobar said @ 5:54am GMT on 5th Feb
That doesn't mean your doctor is trying to poison you.

In civilized countries, doctors both continue to prescribe opiods (with extreme caution), and aren't incentivized to do so.
rylex said @ 2:07pm GMT on 5th Feb
Never said your doc is trying to poison you in America.

Only that they have monetary incentive to recommend certain drugs and that this incentive forms policy.

I get that your argument here is basically "im from canada, neener neener neener". So until you actually habe an opinion, maybe fuck off with the holier than thou attitude and come ready to discuss sensible drug policy

foobar said @ 3:31pm GMT on 5th Feb
See, that's what's caused your entire problem. Why not let doctors do that?
rylex said @ 4:28pm GMT on 5th Feb
Why not let doctors discuss sensible drug policy?

Because, in all seriousness, most of our doctors aren't even truly knowledgeable about what they are prescribing. Look at average prescription length for benzodiazepines in America and compare that to Great Britain.

In the USA, they will prescribe you an amount of xanax which is enough to start a serious dependency if taken in the dosage recommended.
foobar said @ 5:52am GMT on 6th Feb
That's kind of the point. Maybe fix your health care system rather than expect amateurs to be able to have sensible medical opinions.
rylex said @ 5:51pm GMT on 6th Feb
Ok. We would love to do that. And as far as I know, the only way to do this is by spreading information so that everyone can begin to make informed decisions.

By the way, what is your stance on the canadians who come to the US to pay for healthcare because their health condition is unable to afford them the wait required by your highly-advanced -and-unflawed-healthcare system?
steele said @ 6:25pm GMT on 6th Feb [Score:1 Underrated]
I agree with pretty much everything else you're saying, but the whole canadians coming to the us for medical is largely bullshit.

Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States
foobar said[2] @ 4:06pm GMT on 7th Feb
No Canadian needs to go to the US on their own dime for any medical condition. When that is actually medically necessary (for, say, an extremely rare procedure), our system covers it.

Our system prioritizes care based on need, not the ability to pay. The people you're talking about are offering bribes to be moved up the line, and your system is corrupt enough to allow for it. It's largely the same as the "campaign contributions" your politicians accept.
Fish said @ 6:55pm GMT on 1st Feb [Score:-2]
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rylex said @ 8:00pm GMT on 1st Feb [Score:-3 Trollfood]
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Fish said @ 5:57pm GMT on 31st Jan [Score:-4]
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knumbknutz said @ 8:53pm GMT on 31st Jan
What - the market for keeping people addicted to nicotine is drying up for them or something?
LacheChance said @ 6:06am GMT on 1st Feb
Dragons, pudding, and squares!

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