Wednesday, 24 October 2018

Shepard Smith does it again

quote [ Shepard Smith Delivers Comprehensive Fact Check of Migrant Caravan Fear-Mongering ]

This is important because of what platform he said it on. His words will reach more of the people Trump and his cronies are trying to scare. I for one am grateful he has the courage to tell the truth, at the same time amazed he is allowed to continue.

Trump's rhetoric surrounding this has been a series of horrific lies.

Trump declares without evidence that 'Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in' with migrant caravan making its way from Honduras

and it was echoed by VP Pence

Pence: 'It’s inconceivable there are not people of Middle Eastern descent' in migrant caravan

Although Trump has since tried to walk this back...leaving Pence swinging in the breeze.

Trump Admits “There’s No Proof” of “Middle Easterners” in Caravan; Too Bad for Mike Pence Who Was Busy Saying There Was

The Republicans especially Trump have been ramping this up as a final push for the election

Don Lemon: Trump Rallying His Base on Immigrant Caravan Using His Bully Pulpit, And It's Working

And any truth that can get through the right wing bubble of information is very welcome...Thank you Shepard Smith.


There is another example of the hate and fear campaign being carried out in real time...

A domestic terrorist is in the process singling out figures on the Presidents rhetorical hit list.


This is ongoing and will give you more as it comes in. Trump is do to make a press statement shorty it will be interesting to hear what he says.

And of course the right has already claimed it a false flag operation.

QAnon Adherents Cry ‘False Flag’ About Explosive Found Near George Soros’ Home Supporters of an unhinged conspiracy theory have another unhinged conspiracy theory.

And don't forget Smith is the exception on Fox.

Tucker Carlson says conservatives don't protest Democrats at restaurants because they "aren't monsters," then laughs at the pipe bomb sent to Soros' home
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mechanical contrivance said @ 7:44pm GMT on 24th Oct
Fox News must have a reason to keep him on the air, I just don't know what it is.
steele said[3] @ 8:16pm GMT on 24th Oct [Score:2 Underrated]
It's a take on Controlled Opposition; He's treated as the voice of reason by people like bbq thereby helping to define anyone to the left of him as the Far Left.

edit: added the specific term.
bbqkink said @ 8:31pm GMT on 24th Oct
We hope and pray for truth in media and when you see it you piss on it what separates you from Fish and numbers? Different sides of the same coin.
Ussmak said @ 12:10am GMT on 25th Oct
Just because Shep's agreeing with your sentiments, that doesn't make his piece any less opinionary.
Hugh E. said @ 12:56am GMT on 25th Oct [Score:1 Insightful]
Point out the non-facts.
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:09am GMT on 25th Oct
It's Fox news controlling the dissent.
It's also about responding to Fox news (a losing strategy in the election) vs actually promoting democrat platforms (a less-worse strategy).
Republicans have the presidency, the judicial, and the senate.
Democrats can't afford to keep fucking up elections.
Democrats have to push an agenda forward.
These posts don't do that.
bbqkink said @ 2:45am GMT on 25th Oct
Shepard Smith is on Fox news...Or are you insinuating once again that what say here on SE will be harmful to a 50 state this the Lord Voldemort argument again...we shall not speak his name...please.

And please explain to me how truth getting in the Fox news world is a bad thing, or how that our talking about that could possibly do anything to affect any vote anywhere?

What it sounds like is you think that you could be a better party official than what we have...well, welcome to the club.

These post inform the members here...if they are good. that is all. there is no bad mojo from saying anything that is true...unless you are the candidate and want to control the I don't want Betto or Bernie focusing on this...they are not...I do want them taking about health care... they are.
lilmookieesquire said @ 3:15am GMT on 25th Oct
I’ve laid out my argument extremely clearly.
I’ve argued the same position a few times.

Instead of misrepresenting my argument, represent your own. That’s kind of the point I’m making, especially with the Democratic Party.

I’m not saying that you can’t post. I’m saying I prefer posts that talk about the Democrats agenda. I’ve upmodded those historically and recently and will in the future.

If you post something about Bernie or bento promoting healthcare I’ll probably upmod it.
bbqkink said[1] @ 3:26am GMT on 25th Oct [Score:1 Good]
Maybe you are missing my point...This is big news... The Truth just broke through the right wing news bubble...this is a very good thing. Not only for the next election which is of great importance...but for our country.

You want positive Progressive message from Bernie

Bernie Sanders is a Visionary

If you want to know just how big of a deal this was just take note of Fish'e comments...that is what is going on in Right wing media...That there is MS 13 and ISIS on our southern border going to invade at any time...and that the pipe bombs were a falseflag done by the Democrats to just make the right look bad...truth in that world is a damn good thing and the fact that it comes from an unimpeachable
lilmookieesquire said[1] @ 3:39am GMT on 25th Oct
and if that were your post I'd upvote it.
(I mean if it was also more than a three minute youtube clip of a bernie speech)
bbqkink said @ 3:47am GMT on 25th Oct [Score:1 Good]
I don't know about you but I want to reach as many voters as possible. And this is what the GOP has chose to run afraid be very very afraid...the Democrats paid all them people to come here...they are rapist killers babyrapers and they are coming after you there in Kansas or Indiana...and this put a very big hole in that lie.

I like the positive stuff as a mater of fact I just found a very good version of the ol'Muddy Waters classic "Boom Boom" and now would be a great time to listen.

lilmookieesquire said @ 3:52am GMT on 25th Oct
OK I was onboard until you edited your comment. This is what I'm talking about.

You're not going to win fish over.
You're not going to win over fox viewers, if they believe this shit, because one talking head said otherwise. No one who watches fox news is going to now suddenly vote democrat because of this guy's clip. If anything, it's just going to make those people say "Fox is an objective news source, look, they have that guy on TV".

You win elections by talking about your positions. That's what the democrats need to do for the midterms.
bbqkink said @ 5:01am GMT on 25th Oct
You're not going to win fish over.

Amen what ever motivates him is beyond facts or reason it is like talking facts with a religious fanatic you are wasting your breath.

You're not going to win over fox viewers,

There are lot of people who still get their news from Fox that are not religious fanatics.

No one who watches fox news is going to now suddenly vote democrat because of this guy's clip.

I think some will and like I said this guy is unimpeachable there have very few people who could take on the Trump propaganda head on and survive the media onslaught but Smith has shut down a few of the major memes ran by this administration...He makes a statement about the blatant lies and the freaking thing stops.

This is what the GOP has chosen to close the 2018 election with this was their top talking point and if shuts this line of bullshit down...that is a big thing and has electoral consequence.

You win elections by talking about your positions

That is what candidates do...this is the media. Trump uses the media as free campaign adds. This is where you fight him...and this was a direct hit on his home turf. Should anyone put this in a campaigner add? No. Is this good it is on network news...hell yes. Is it going to do any harm that you and I are talking about it ? No.
Hell depending what the subscription rate is here it might just sway one vote. And I am sure this is not a positive for Trump or the Republicans.

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hellboy said @ 9:16pm GMT on 24th Oct [Score:1 Interesting]
I've been a fan of his for probably 20 years. I find him fascinating, I'd love to know wtf is going on in his head working at Faux. When I first looked him up I think I read that he was one of their top rated talking heads, so maybe that's how he gets away with it. Because this isn't an anomaly, he's been the Only Sane Man (and not in the Alan Colmes punching bag way) for a long time.
backSLIDER said @ 9:23pm GMT on 24th Oct
I wonder if he just has a good contract and balls of steel? I know some guys in my industry that are just unflappable. People try to push BS at them and they just don't care and no one will listen to the BS because they are well respected. So maybe he has just never compromised himself and they have to give him is due.
hellboy said[1] @ 3:06pm GMT on 26th Oct
This is a good example of why I like Shep. This is his reaction to Newt Gingrich ending his campaign for president; the best bit is the last 30 seconds.

Shep Smith's Reaction To Gingrich Speech: "What Just Happened?"
rezties said @ 7:46pm GMT on 24th Oct
My friend has a maze bowl for her dog, to make it harder to eat so the dog doesn't throw up from gorging itself, even though the food isn't going anywhere and has never been taken away.

I'm not necessarily saying this is the same thing, it's just what came to mind.
thepublicone said @ 8:01pm GMT on 24th Oct
It can't be they're worried he'll bold to NBC- I am pretty certain the networks learned that lesson after Meghan Kelly.

I actually cannot believe he got away with this- I kept watching, expecting a giant hook to appear from the edge of the screen, and slide him away, ESPECIALLY the follow-up video when he directly told a viewer commenting that he was full of shit, and being fear-mongered by Trump.
bbqkink said @ 5:13am GMT on 25th Oct
“Those engaged in the political arena must stop treating political opponents as being morally defective.” “No one should carelessly compare their political opponents to historical villains”

Says the man who just called himself a nationalist.

TRUMP: “There is much we can do to bring our nation together.”

I for one am glad they are actually admitting it. "America First"..not historical at all/s
bbqkink said @ 6:14am GMT on 25th Oct
I think this may be the most amazing thing any Whitehouse has said about their own President in American History.

White House: Chinese Surveilling Trump, But He’s Too Dumb to Know Any Secrets

This is ...fuck I just don't know what to say....If its a...fuck. Really? True or not...Really?
backSLIDER said @ 2:15pm GMT on 25th Oct
Big if true.
mechanical contrivance said @ 6:07pm GMT on 25th Oct
Media outlets have been reporting for a long time now that Trump's aids keep important information from him so that he can't blab it to our adversaries.
backSLIDER said @ 9:52pm GMT on 25th Oct
I was making a joke. But yeah, really is the blind leading the blind. It is a weird short circuited version of a reality show joke. It is truly scary.
ComposerNate said @ 8:58pm GMT on 25th Oct
Agent Trump legally providing direct line of info to employers
bbqkink said[1] @ 9:06pm GMT on 25th Oct
Na he works for Trump inc. who is under contract to Moscow. China is listing to his late night brainstorming session with his cronies. You know where they come up with the idea like tada ...SPACE FORCE (would have love to have been listing in that night) . China is not trying to influence Trump but his the next time they whisper in his ear they say something that will benefit China.
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bbqkink said @ 11:28pm GMT on 25th Oct
There was some small d democratic good news from Georgia.

Judge orders halt to Georgia throwing out absentee ballots

This is far from over but democracy won this round.
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