Sunday, 21 October 2018

Erdoğan says will reveal details of Khashoggi case Tuesday

quote [ "We seek justice and this will be revealed in all its naked truth, not through some ordinary steps but in all its naked truth. This is not an ordinary case. I will make statements on Tuesday at the AK Party parliamentary group meeting. The incident will be revealed entirely,"

(Main link is background/ story in extended) ]

It will be hard to lie after this goes public.

details of Khashoggi case Tuesday

And in the understatement of the year...

Saudi foreign minister says killing of Khashoggi was 'tremendous mistake'

They are back to Trumps lie.

Saudi Arabia Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told Fox News that the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was a "tremendous mistake" and part of a rogue operation.

I wonder how long they will stick to this story?

A Saudi official has told ABC News that Jamal Khashoggi was killed when he was "placed in a chokehold position" to prevent him from leaving the country's consulate in Turkey and calling for help

I wonder if this was before or after they cut off his fingers.

Audio Offers Gruesome Details of Jamal Khashoggi Killing, Turkish Official Says

And this is really not going to happen.

Fmr CIA Dir.: Khashoggi Scandal Will Be The Downfall Of Mohammad Bin Salman

The Saudis and the US have all their eggs in MBS basket and they are not going to let a little torture and Murder mess that up.
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[by bbqkink@11:27pmGMT]

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bbqkink said @ 3:06am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2]
I love how all the White Christian Nationalist are handling this but this is the topper.



bbqkink said @ 5:20am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Informative]
This is way of topic but I will drop it here it may affect some here.

This decision is momentous news for student loan borrowers who were cheated by their colleges.
twinkle said @ 1:24am GMT on 22nd Oct
eh, why lie about it. Nobody's done anything about any of the other stuff they've done- they might as well just own up to it.
Kama-Kiri said @ 2:29pm GMT on 22nd Oct
"A Saudi official has told ABC News that Jamal Khashoggi was killed when he was "placed in a chokehold position" to prevent him from leaving the country's consulate in Turkey and calling for help"

And who says the Saudis are lying again? I for one absolutely believe them when they say Khashoggi wanted to leave the consulate and call for help.

(aside: but what's Turkey's political beef here, why are they are so big on proving it went down?)
WeiYang said @ 4:20pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Underrated]
Turkey and SA are competing for influence in the Sunni world. Any loss of face for SA is seen by the Turks as a win.

This is all aimed at the American press. There is nobody in the middle east who is shocked by this or to whom "whodunnit" is a riddle, or whose policy will possibly be affected one iota, one way or the other. King Erdogan being the champion of a persecuted press is, to say the least, rich.
Kama-Kiri said @ 12:28am GMT on 23rd Oct
"King Erdogan being the champion of a persecuted press is, to say the least, rich."

Indeed. Just as the Russians, for example, have remained very quiet in their condemnation and even the Chinese haven't professed to be shocked and appalled I expected the rule of stones and glass houses would have applied to Erdogan's camp also.

Viewed in context of Turkey wanting to restrict the flow of American arms, money, and political support to the Saudis it makes far more sense. Thank you.
bbqkink said[1] @ 4:59pm GMT on 22nd Oct
they sent a 15 person hit squad that included a medical examiner with a bone saw. They tortured him cutting of his finger one by one. This was no fist fight and this was no accidental death by choke hold.
Kama-Kiri said @ 11:28pm GMT on 22nd Oct
The quote from the Saudi official never suggested it was accidental. He just said he was restrained while being killed. You, Sir, are making baseless accusations!
bbqkink said @ 11:56pm GMT on 22nd Oct
It is on tape...details have been leaking since it happened. the 15 man hit squad is on video you can see them arrive and depart...the medical examiner was one of them the bone saw was noted on the customs report. what part do you think is baseless.

and seriously which of the 10 different stories from SA do you believe...me I don't believe any of it, The Turks are not reliable either but this is on tape.
Kama-Kiri said @ 12:14am GMT on 23rd Oct
Uh... 'kink.... check your internals. Methinks your outrage generator has jammed up your sarcasm detector. The beauty of the Saudi statement is that the literal truth of it does not contradict any of your assertions.
bbqkink said[1] @ 12:22am GMT on 23rd Oct
The truth that he was accidentally choked after they tortured him, or that he got into a fist fight after they cut off his fingers? It would be hard to prove chocking without his head attached to his body .
Kama-Kiri said @ 2:57am GMT on 23rd Oct
"Jamal Khashoggi was killed when he was "placed in a chokehold position" to prevent him from leaving the country's consulate in Turkey and calling for help"

^^^
this is the statement you quoted

It says he wanted to leave and call for help, so they restrained him and then killed him.

Perfectly logical and reasonable. Restraining him was necessary because he wanted to leave. What fact there do you have an issue with?
hellboy said[1] @ 4:00am GMT on 23rd Oct
He's not getting your sarcasm.
Kama-Kiri said @ 6:20am GMT on 23rd Oct
and I wasn't even going for subtlety :(
bbqkink said[1] @ 4:01pm GMT on 23rd Oct
Hard to choke a guy with no head..nothing sarcastic about murder and a lie.
My point is this is just the newest lie, no more truth in this than any of the others.
C18H27NO3 said @ 6:17pm GMT on 22nd Oct
As though anything they say will remotely resemble the truth in any way? I've been trained. All that is said from any one of these bastards is bullshit.

I guess ill go ahead and continue my netflix series, or instagram, or twitter feed. Or vodka, or religion, or . . .
bbqkink said @ 10:39pm GMT on 22nd Oct
hellboy said @ 3:58am GMT on 23rd Oct
Hey, you know, this is just what Khashoggi gets for saying "I could beat all 15 of you, AND your bone saw, with both hands tied behind my back!"
bbqkink said @ 1:08am GMT on 24th Oct
Well no tape released.

Contrary to expectations, Erdoğan’s first update on the three-week-old case did not officially reveal the existence of audio and video evidence understood to be in Turkey’s possession.

Jamal Khashoggi: Erdoğan rejects Saudi account of killing
Fish said @ 4:15pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-3 Troll]
filtered comment under your threshold
bbqkink said @ 5:12pm GMT on 22nd Oct
So you think he worked for the CIA? That would be another reason to find and punish his killers. You do realize the CIA works for us?

You will do anything to suck Trumps dick.
Fish said @ 11:31pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-1 Troll]
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bbqkink said[2] @ 11:58pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Then I think it is time to leave this country that you seem to detest so much...don't care where you go just leave.

Oh I am a liberal the CIA has never worked for my agenda.
Ankylosaur said @ 1:47am GMT on 23rd Oct [Score:1 Funny]
Why are you arguing with fish? You know he's not a real person, right? He's just an NPC. Don't get distracted by his useless side quests.
bbqkink said @ 2:13am GMT on 23rd Oct
Are you suggesting he is a sock puppet?
Ankylosaur said @ 2:34am GMT on 23rd Oct
No, "he" is a non-player character, an unthinking qualia-free automaton, a p-zombie, a collection of rote catchphrases and scripted responses that has an outward appearance of a person but is entirely empty inside. There's no hand in that sock, only lint.
rylex said @ 3:09am GMT on 23rd Oct
Lint implies substance. There is nothing but a vacuous void
bbqkink said[1] @ 4:22pm GMT on 23rd Oct
fair enough..so you let the propaganda he spews stand? Even if he is just a speaker on a pole echoing other peoples lies...the lie is still out there.
milkman666 said @ 2:45pm GMT on 24th Oct [Score:1 Informative]
iosef said @ 7:05pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-1]
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bbqkink said @ 10:10pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-1]
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