Monday, 24 September 2018
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Like you do, no particular reason. Only the best people, only the best calendars.
Also, the Dumpster-on-Fire asks this very astute question that I think really cuts to the heart of the matter:
Trump Asks Why Kavanaugh Accuser Didn’t Just Immediately Request Hush Money
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hellboy said[1] @ 6:33am GMT on 24th Sep
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ooo[......7 said @ 9:20am GMT on 24th Sep
What in the fuck?
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knumbknutz said @ 1:56pm GMT on 24th Sep
He's telling him to get off of his lawn
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foobar said @ 10:12am GMT on 24th Sep
How exactly is someone supposed to mount a defense for an accusation in 1982? I don't like the guy, but if someone suddenly remembers something 36 years after the fact coincidentally right when they're nominated for a prominent position, well, Occam's razor calls bullshit.
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milkman666 said[1] @ 12:31pm GMT on 24th Sep
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Sexual assault is one of those crimes that are underreported. You spend good knows how much of your life trying to forget one night, and then on the news you see that face. Oh and he wants to overturn Roe v Wade. The guy that treated you like meat wants to get hired to a job where he can do it to the whole country.
So what's more likely, a conspiracy? Because these women have and will receive death threats and harrasement. What's the compensation if you're not getting a check from some cabal? Maybe this guy is just a shit and now that he's under the spotlight his past is starting to come out. |
knumbknutz said @ 2:01pm GMT on 24th Sep
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It takes that first brave soul to open the floodgate:
New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh’s College Years - Michael Avenatti Twitter |
Fish said @ 2:43am GMT on 25th Sep
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rylex said @ 5:51pm GMT on 26th Sep
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foobar said @ 4:47pm GMT on 24th Sep
Even if he's guilty, he still deserves a fair chance at a defence. That can't happen 36 years after the fact.
More importantly, if he were convicted at 17, he should have gone through a child rehabilitation program and then be allowed to continue on with his life. It shouldn't be a consideration now. |
milkman666 said @ 5:36pm GMT on 24th Sep
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Oh, I don't believe there's a conviction pending. He's just not going to get the job. If I'm interviewing you for a dog sitting position i'm not waiting on a conviction for molesting dachshunds to exhaust all it's opportunities to appeal. I'm just gonna talk to the next applicant.
The calls for the FBI to investigate I imagine is similar to what you'd expect for a background check for security clearance. You can be disqualified for a job for a lot of behavior that isn't illlegal. As for your last paragraph I think you might have a good point. Brock Turner was ill served by a light sentence. Justice denied is bad for everyone. |
foobar said @ 11:14pm GMT on 24th Sep
Yes, if Turner had been given a more appropriate sentence he could probably have moved on to live a relatively normal life, but there are a few very important distinctions between these two cases. Turner was convicted, and he was an adult. Barely, granted, but you have to draw lines somewhere.
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Headlessfriar said @ 11:43am GMT on 24th Sep
He seems pretty prepared. I mean, he had those letters from random women right away. Quicker than someone who wasn't expecting an accusation would be able to gather them, which strongly implies he knew it was coming. I call bullshit on your calling bullshit.
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foobar said @ 4:43pm GMT on 24th Sep
There will be rather a lot of people paid to do that sort of thing for him.
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hellboy said @ 7:18pm GMT on 24th Sep
Christine Blasey Ford didn't "suddenly remember" anything, she's been living with what he did for 36 years.
How is someone supposed to mount a defense? Not like this. If he was really innocent there wouldn't be other people coming forward, there wouldn't be other red flags, there wouldn't be any nonsense about calendars. I've never sexually assaulted anyone. There's no highschool buddy of mine to claim he doesn't remember any such assault but refuses to testify, with a number of suspicious comments in writing about "uncontrollable male passion" and blackout drinking. There's no ex-girlfriend of that friend saying he's lying, that he told her about gangbang parties he participated in. There are no former classmates with stories about "jungle juice" and predatory frat parties and me shoving my dick in their face, there's no former college roommate to say "yep, that sounds like something he would do." There would be no need for Republican senators to round up signatures from 65 mysterious women who knew me in highschool (in spite of the all-boys prep school I hypothetically attended) and remember me as well-behaved, no need for those asshole senators to try to rush the confirmation, or make feeble attempts to excuse attempted rape as teenage horsing around that every boy does. The hearings aren't a criminal trial, they're a vetting of someone's character and integrity before confirming them for a lifelong appointment to the highest judicial post in the country. It should never have gotten this far, and Dr. Blasey should never have had to speak up, because it should already be obvious to everyone that Kavanaugh is a self-serving piece of shit who has committed perjury by lying to Congress on multiple occasions and is completely unfit for the job - unless the job is "asshole covering for other assholes", which is all the Republicans care about. |
hellboy said @ 7:21pm GMT on 24th Sep
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Fish said @ 2:45am GMT on 25th Sep
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foobar said @ 11:11pm GMT on 24th Sep
Sure, she's been "living with what he did" for 36 years and it wasn't important until he's being vetted for a highly politicized position. If it didn't matter for all those years, it shouldn't matter when there's suddenly something to be gained from the accusation.
I certainly don't want him in that position, and disagree with him for a multitude of reasons, but if he's going to be accused of a crime it should be proven or ignored. |
hellboy said @ 11:53pm GMT on 24th Sep
It was important to her the whole time, but she wasn't in a position to do much about it until now. Again with the "sudden" bullshit - she wrote her letter to the Senate back before he was even nominated, when his name popped up as a potential candidate. She's also not the only one to come forward - as is almost always the case, once one person is brave enough to speak up (and expose themselves to the inevitable attempts to destroy their lives), others will come forward with similar stories. But thanks for being a rape apologist.
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foobar said[1] @ 2:16am GMT on 25th Sep
Believing in due process and the presumption of innocence is not "rape apology."
She could have reported this at any time. She chose not to. |
milkman666 said @ 1:51am GMT on 25th Sep
Would you support Kavanaugh suing her for defamation? Considering its been 36 years, she must be lying right? She's making that mad gofundme money for her "private security". Why would someone not report it quickly if it actually happened?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/03/sexual-assault-awareness-month/99834118/ Lets say, for arguments sake, she was assaulted. She should just shut up right? Considering the damage it can do, and the fact she couldn't possibly be able to secure a conviction anyway she should just keep her mouth shut? |
foobar said @ 2:19am GMT on 25th Sep
After 36 years, it really doesn't matter if it actually happened or not. All possibility of a fair trial is long gone, and even if he were guilty he would have paid his debt to society and it should have been forgotten about decades ago.
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knumbknutz said[2] @ 2:00pm GMT on 24th Sep
Pretty sure he won't even make it to Wednesday without withdrawing or the White House quitting on him, and/or enough Senate GOP no's piling up over the next day or so to make the committee vote moot anyway.
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