Monday, 17 September 2018

Jeff Flake Suggests Delaying Kavanaugh Vote Amid Sexual Assault Allegations

quote [ The Arizona senator became the first Republican to urge the Judiciary Committee not to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination until his accuser can be heard. ]

If they don't have Flake they can't get it out of committee.

Kavanaugh accuser breaks silence over sexual misconduct allegations

Not at all sure what this is all about but anything that slows this nightmare down is a good thing. I am not believing this story...not yet anyway...a high school story just coming out now...but hey I'll take it,especially in it stops this guy's conformation until after the election.

Here is a major side story about this...

Facebook Suppressed a Story About Brett Kavanaugh’s Opposition to Roe v. Wade. We’re Republishing It.

Who ever though that the Weekly Standard would be an unbiased judge of what is fake news...was being...biased.


Facebook blocked the spread of a liberal article because a conservative told it to
How Facebook’s supposedly unbiased fact-checking can go very wrong.
[SFW] [crime & punishment] [+5 Good]
[by bbqkink@1:43amGMT]

Comments

hellboy said[1] @ 2:18am GMT on 17th Sep [Score:1 Good]
It didn't come out before because Feinstein sat on it.

I'm very leery of letting one person's claim of bad behavior derail someone's career (it's too easy for the Republicans to weaponize that, and they will), but I'm inclined to believe the woman - she's in for a raft of shit from the right for speaking up, so it's unlikely she'd do so without good reason. If her story is true there's a good chance there are other similar stories.

The fact that Kavanaugh is blatantly guilty of perjury should have been more than enough to sink this nomination already. There's zero chance that he saw Leahy's internal memos and did not realize they were stolen.
bbqkink said[1] @ 2:27am GMT on 17th Sep
The fact that Kavanaugh is blatantly guilty of perjury should have been more than enough to sink this nomination already.

You'd think..and about the GOP weaponizing things to stop or get nominees to ANY court. That horse left the barn some time ago.

Edit

I don't think he is sexual predator I think this has a lot more to do with achohol than sex. But the longer they delay the more chance the other things about him will come out...like...

The Many Mysteries of Brett Kavanaugh’s Finances
Who made the down payment on his house? How did he come up with $92,000 in country club fees?


The story about his gambling seems more like a how did he pay for it story that a habitual gambler story as well.
hellboy said @ 3:03am GMT on 17th Sep [Score:2 Underrated]
We don't need to reinforce bad precedent by the Republicans by following it too.

And I've gotten drunk with attractive women plenty of times in my life (most recently this past Friday night), and I'm a kinky guy, but I have never even considered locking a woman in a room, holding her down, and covering her mouth to keep her from screaming while I force myself on her. Kavanaugh isn't just an alcoholic, he's a fucking creep who lies like a sack of shit. He shouldn't be a judge in traffic school.
bbqkink said @ 3:07am GMT on 17th Sep
We don't need to reinforce bad precedent by the Republicans by following it too.

When it comes to SCOTUS after what they did with Obama's Pick anything short of assignation is fair game.
hellboy said @ 3:12am GMT on 17th Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Funny typo... I assume.

And yeah, the constitutional crisis didn't start win Trump, it started with McConnell and Garland. The Dems should have refused to vote on anything until Merrick Garland got a fair hearing.
bbqkink said[1] @ 3:24am GMT on 17th Sep
Yeah I had to look up "assignation"

as·sig·na·tion
ˌasiɡˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: assignation; plural noun: assignations

1.
an appointment to meet someone in secret, typically one made by lovers.
"his assignation with an older woman"
synonyms: rendezvous, date, appointment, meeting; literarytryst
"their secret assignation"
2.
the allocation or attribution of someone or something as belonging to something.

When you spell as bad as I do spellcheck can be a dangerous thing.
bbqkink said @ 2:51am GMT on 17th Sep [Score:1 Good]

Bernie Sanders
‏Verified account @SenSanders

While Trump and Paul Ryan continue their attempts to destroy Social Security, 150 of my colleagues and I launched the Expand Social Security Caucus yesterday to make sure seniors can retire in dignity.

Social Security Caucus


bbqkink said @ 7:02pm GMT on 17th Sep [Score:1 Good]
200 Women From Christine Blasey Ford’s High School Sign Letter in Support of Her

A draft of the letter, written by alumnae of Ford’s alma mater, the prestigious all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda, Maryland, reads, “We believe Dr. Blasey Ford and are grateful that she came forward to tell her story. It demands a thorough and independent investigation before the Senate can reasonably vote on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to a lifetime seat on the nation’s highest court.”

They add, “Dr. Blasey Ford’s experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves.”

It is signed, “Holton Alumae in Support of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford,
A group of 200-plus alumnae from the classes of 1967–2018.”
hellboy said @ 2:25am GMT on 17th Sep
And Facebook was created (or stolen) by a sociopath, no one should ever be surprised by its poor judgement. That's a feature, not a bug.
gendo666 said @ 2:39am GMT on 17th Sep

I don't think Flake is running for re-election and has bucked the party machine more than once.
He seems to be the sort for Republican who should be running for office.
Ebichuman said @ 10:54am GMT on 17th Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
If Flake actually makes a stand on this, great, but I'm not holding my breath. Flake has remained all talk even since he decided not to run again. Somehow he has managed to piss off both parties while not taking a stand on anything, and I don't see that changing now.
bbqkink said[1] @ 2:47am GMT on 17th Sep
He's not.

edit

He knew that he would either have to cozy up to Trump or he would lose his seat in the primary...took the honorable way out.
gendo666 said @ 2:56am GMT on 17th Sep
Isn't that seriously ass though.
I mean all the good people (maybe not the best politicians) on both sides who are just blurred out.
bbqkink said @ 3:00am GMT on 17th Sep
Just wait till after the election. The only Republicans that are going to be left are the deep red ones...the moderates will be gone.
ComposerNate said @ 2:38pm GMT on 17th Sep
The same with judges.
bbqkink said @ 3:46pm GMT on 17th Sep
worse with judges

One year into his presidency, Donald Trump is among the most successful presidents when it comes to appointing federal judges.

They blocked Obama's appointments and created a lack of judges then when Trump got elected they started running them on a conveyor belt at high speed.
knumbknutz said @ 1:44pm GMT on 17th Sep
There are a lot of Republicans in tight races are going to have a decision to make if this thing actually gets to a full vote.
bbqkink said @ 3:31am GMT on 17th Sep
And it looks like another nut bag got off his meds.

Virginia state senator Richard Black turned up on Arab TV last week making an extraordinary claim about one of the US’ closest allies.

Mr Black said Britain’s MI6 intelligence service was planning a chemical weapons attack on the Syrian people, which it would then blame on Mr Assad.

US senator claims Britain's MI6 is planning a fake chemical weapons attack on Syria

'I'm just an individual who is deeply concerned about achieving peace and stopping the slaughter in the Middle East', said the politician
bbqkink said @ 4:18pm GMT on 17th Sep
Bleb said @ 5:24pm GMT on 17th Sep [Score:-1 Troll]
filtered comment under your threshold
bbqkink said @ 5:53pm GMT on 17th Sep
and you just disprove your own statement.
Bleb said @ 6:07pm GMT on 17th Sep
?

Right. I'm out. You stay here.
bbqkink said @ 6:21pm GMT on 17th Sep
have fun outside.
arrowhen said[1] @ 6:10pm GMT on 17th Sep
Of course it doesn't matter if anyone reads his rants or clicks his links. No one ever has changed or ever will change their mind based on an internet political argument and no one arguing about politics on the internet has the power to do anything about it -- that's why they're here arguing instead.

If it helps, you can look at bbq's political ranting as a sort of performance art piece about yelling defiantly (if not always articulately) into the void.

Besides, everyone needs a hobby.
bbqkink said[2] @ 6:26pm GMT on 17th Sep
You are probably right it is useless as publishing a little pamphlet ranting about politics.

Thomas Paine (born Thomas Pain[1]) (February 9, 1737 [O.S. January 29, 1736][Note 1] – June 8, 1809) was an English-born American political activist, philosopher, political theorist and revolutionary. One of the Founding Fathers of the United States, he authored the two most influential pamphlets at the start of the American Revolution and inspired the patriots in 1776 to declare independence from Britain.[2]

It didn't end to well for paine.

He was the first advocate for UBI and punished another pamphlet that advocated deism and His The American Crisis (1776–1783) was a pro-revolutionary pamphlet series. Common Sense was so influential that John Adams said: "Without the pen of the author of Common Sense, the sword of Washington would have been raised in vain"

"These are the times that try men's souls."

But he dies d alone and only 6 people attended his funeral because of his anti Christian views

arrowhen said @ 12:27am GMT on 18th Sep
Thomas Paine was a cool dude, that's for sure! But pamphleteering was a huge deal in the 1700s, the printing press had been around for a couple hundred years but recent advances in printing technology made self-publishing way more affordable and there was a huge explosion of essayists suddenly being able to get their thoughts out to a wider audience instead of just their personal circle of pen pals. They were basically the bloggers of their day.

And while Paine's "blog" helped inspire the American Revolution, there were thousands of other pamphlets coming out that only inspired a mild chuckle or harrumph over some gentleman's morning tea and ended up in the bottom of the birdcage a couple days later. Just like today: the next great political revolution might very well be inspired by a blog or a Reddit post, but it probably ain't gonna be one that you or I wrote.
bbqkink said[3] @ 2:37am GMT on 18th Sep [Score:1 Underrated]
the next great political revolution might very well be inspired by a blog or a Reddit post, but it probably ain't gonna be one that you or I wrote.

Well maybe yours cause I sure don't write like Paine. Point is just like him I have to expose the good and bad when I see it. And the post I make on Reddit may be wider read than the ones I make here. This is the place where I learned what I know about the openness of the internet and the ablity of anybody to be heard around the world.
May sound corny but I think that is amazing.

You got to understand TV was new when I was a kid it came to my town the year I was born...we didn't even have one until I was in grade school. (2 channels black & white) Communication on this level where something said in a place like this can go viral and be around the world in minutes still blows my mind...and I like to talk.who knows you or i may find something that influence the world...at the very least it may drive #'s crazy.

But just like Paine I will likely die broke and alone but also like him I'm not going to shut up either. Before I get too sappy the truth is I came to SE like most people for the porn...stayed for the open dialog..but hey look at those Tits
5432 said @ 3:23am GMT on 18th Sep [Score:-3 Boring]
filtered comment under your threshold
bbqkink said @ 3:30am GMT on 18th Sep [Score:0 Underrated]
..at the very least it may drive #'s crazy.
bbqkink said @ 6:57pm GMT on 18th Sep
bbqkink said @ 11:45pm GMT on 18th Sep
'Beyond Shameful': Attempting to Put Victim on Trial, Collins Wants to Let Kavanaugh's Lawyer Question His Accuser

"Collins seems to have forgotten that Brett Kavanaugh is the one who has been accused of a crime, not Christine Blasey Ford."
bbqkink said @ 2:56am GMT on 19th Sep
Well This is coming to a head...

Ford wants FBI investigation before testifying

In a letter addressed to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa, and obtained by CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360," Christine Blasey Ford's attorneys argue that "a full investigation by law enforcement officials will ensure that the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a non-partisan manner, and that the Committee is fully informed before conducting any hearing or making any decisions."


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