Tuesday, 7 August 2018

Ankle Monitors Aren’t Humane. They’re Another Kind of Jail

quote [ Electronic monitors violate people’s civil rights and carry unfair financial penalties. ]

I hate America's fixation on punishing people.
[SFW] [crime & punishment] [+4 Interesting]
[by satanspenis666@3:18amGMT]


ubie said @ 12:10pm GMT on 7th Aug [Score:2 Underrated]
Counterpoint:. An anklet that detects alcohol probably saved a family member's life. He was able to work instead of sitting in jail and forced sobriety on him for six months.
mechanical contrivance said @ 12:52pm GMT on 7th Aug [Score:2 Insightful]
Of course they're another kind of jail. They're supposed to be.
milkman666 said[1] @ 1:44pm GMT on 7th Aug
I thought they provided a bit of granularity. You fucked up, you need to be overseen so you're not so much a danger to yourself and others.

But on proper review of the article I can see why how that goes out the window when you just don't give a fuck about rehabilitation. Another cheapass product, where the costs lay on the individual not the state. The incentives are all kinds of fucked, monetizing yoyo incarceration while payday lending freedom out to the prisoner.
bbqkink said @ 3:48am GMT on 8th Aug
Anybody in the county jail would give their last dime to put one on and walk out the door....rehabilitation...Hahahah..you have never been to jail have you?
milkman666 said @ 12:03pm GMT on 8th Aug
Don't have to go to jail to know it's better to be able to retain a semblance of your old life through the penal systems version of an outpatient program.

I would have to had read the article to see how it's implementation needs a lot of work. How it's critics are not against monitors wholesale but how it seems to be slapdash. Slapdash, and considering the incentives of the state and company that supplies the devices, has little hope of being fixed.

You seem like someone with on the ground experience. A real advocate for someone who had to navigate the penal system. I'm sure you'd agree with me that it's a system with potential that could use overhauling. I would go into it, but i would just be repeating what was in the article to begin with. So why bother repeating what we all have already read.
bbqkink said[2] @ 3:34pm GMT on 8th Aug
Yea been in an a few lock ups...there is a lot wrong with the system and the jails themselves...electronic monitoring is not one of them.

The only thing jail does to rehabilitate inmates is to teach them they never want to go back.
bbqkink said @ 7:17pm GMT on 8th Aug [Score:-1]
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milkman666 said @ 3:00am GMT on 9th Aug [Score:-1]
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bbqkink said[1] @ 4:02am GMT on 9th Aug [Score:-1]
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bbqkink said[1] @ 4:01am GMT on 7th Aug
And compared to siitin your ass in the county slam....
steele said[4] @ 5:02pm GMT on 7th Aug
If you haven't seen 13th, I highly recommend it.

13th Netflix Documentary Trailer

Made a post about it last year with a link to it online if you don't have netflix plus related reading, of course.
bbqkink said @ 4:35am GMT on 10th Aug
bbqkink said @ 4:40am GMT on 10th Aug
Dienes said @ 7:38pm GMT on 7th Aug
In my field, punishment is effective by definition. If it doesn't decrease the probability of the behavior in the future, to a socially significant extent, it isn't actually punishment.

Our justice system doles out little punishment. Its just dishing out vindictiveness.
coffeejoejava said @ 9:16pm GMT on 7th Aug
And in what universe or country on this earth do they not punish those that screw up? Get a DUI and they pat you on the ass and tell you to do better next time? In Thailand or Japan you are looking at SERIOUS jail time.

An ankle bracelet enables the person to at least be home and not sitting in the county jail on the taxpayer dime.

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