Sunday, 10 June 2018

If this is what he does with our closet allies what could possibly go wrong with Kim and NK

quote [ Trump bashes Trudeau as 'very dishonest and weak' as G7 agreement crumbles ]

He shows up late, says his owners in Russia should be allowed back in the G7, insults our closest allies, says he may cancel trade to..everybody, leaves early, won't endorse G7 statement.

Trump criticizes Justin Trudeau, says US won't endorse G7 statement

This was an unmitigated disaster...all of it on Trump.

Donald Trump held a press conference at the G7 -- here are the 38 wildest things he said

Now he heads off for North Korea...Maybe the Dooms Day Prepers were right after all.
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[by bbqkink@4:15amGMT]


hellboy said @ 7:45pm GMT on 11th Jun [Score:3]
The President of the United States is a Russian asset and a traitor.
BUGGERLUGS123 said @ 1:45pm GMT on 12th Jun
Hell yeah! Brother!
Hugh E. said @ 5:23am GMT on 10th Jun [Score:2]
"our closet allies"? Is that what the kids are calling Russia and China these days?
thepublicone said[1] @ 6:02pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Your President is unhinged.

Not even in like a "ha ha, this shit is wack" way. No, I'm talking about a serious look at POTUS' fitness for the position, before he does irreparable damage to your country.

Stopping trade with Canada is literally impossible; it would bring a large portion of your economy to a screeching halt, destroy your industrial capacity, and result in massive unemployment..... not to mention blacking out a large portion of your eastern seaboard (Our power facilities in Quebec and Ontario keep your lights on, especially in the summer.)

Here's a fun hypothetical: How many days without air conditioning or power in 100 degree heat will it take for the people of Boston, Philly, NYC or Washington to revolt?
lilmookieesquire said @ 6:20pm GMT on 10th Jun
There’s literally a chunk of America that new this and voted for it. Purposefully.
Hugh E. said @ 6:40pm GMT on 10th Jun
FWIW, there's a larger chunk that didn't.

Are you implying Trump has a constituency that wants to proverbially burn it all down?
lilmookieesquire said[1] @ 9:47pm GMT on 10th Jun
I’m implying there’s a segment of America that doesn’t care if he does. (And those people aren’t evil or anything. It’s a wake up call and really is probably a worse critique about democrats than it is about republicans.)
Hugh E. said @ 10:32pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
FWIW, there's a larger chunk that didn't.

I am trying to keep a positive perception on the state of American citizenry. You can just get out of here with your realistic take on what continues to be a centuries-old detriment. No one wants to hear it. Especially not Democrats. lalalalalalalalalala
hellboy said @ 7:44pm GMT on 11th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
There's a segment of that segment that is evil and that does want to burn it all down though, sometimes literally.

Democrats keep making the mistake of thinking that all Trump supporters have the same motivations. Some are the white working class who were abandoned by the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party (and in some cases they regret their vote). Some feel that the system isn't sufficiently rigged in favor of the rich. Some just vote Republican every time without thinking too much about it. Some think he's good for selling newspapers (how else to explain the New York Times fellating the Dumpster Fire every chance they get). And some are basically trolls who want to behave in real life the way they behave on the internet, without consequences.
HoZay said @ 4:19pm GMT on 12th Jun
What they all have in common is their willingness to vote for someone who campaigned as a racist, and governs as a racist.
hellboy said @ 5:35pm GMT on 12th Jun
Fair point. Sadly, for some otherwise good people that's a quirk or a minor character flaw and not a huge red flag.
HoZay said @ 12:50am GMT on 13th Jun
(And those people aren’t evil or anything. It’s a wake up call and really is probably a worse critique about democrats than it is about republicans.)

How can you tell they aren't evil? How different would they be if they were evil?
0000 said[1] @ 9:55pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:-3]
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thepublicone said @ 11:02pm GMT on 10th Jun
Clearly post, and clearly ridiculous.... it'd be hilarious if it was well done, though
0000 said @ 12:17am GMT on 11th Jun [Score:-2 Boring]
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bbqkink said @ 4:17am GMT on 11th Jun [Score:1 WTF]
thepublicone said @ 7:23pm GMT on 12th Jun
Bring that solar tech to Canada- we'll take all of it.
lilmookieesquire said @ 9:20am GMT on 10th Jun
I feel like this is direct revenge for Yeltsin.
BUGGERLUGS123 said @ 12:19pm GMT on 10th Jun
We'll all be dead by Friday, but hey, he'll be the man!
moriati said @ 12:49pm GMT on 10th Jun
[aside] To my fellow Brits, I think it's time we consider that our 240-year social science experiment is coming to an end.
bbqkink said @ 4:49pm GMT on 10th Jun
bbqkink said[1] @ 4:50pm GMT on 10th Jun

John McCain


To our allies: bipartisan majorities of Americans remain pro-free trade, pro-globalization & supportive of alliances based on 70 years of shared values. Americans stand with you, even if our president doesn’t.
7:55 PM - Jun 9, 2018

John McCain Tells Allies: Americans Stand With You Even If Trump Doesn’t
The Arizona senator tweeted after Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau slammed each other following a tense G7 summit.
bbqkink said @ 5:21pm GMT on 10th Jun
Referring to what he called “ridiculous and unfair” tariffs on U.S. imports, Trump said, “It’s going to stop — or we’ll stop trading with them. And that’s a very profitable answer, if we have to do it.”

“We’re the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends,” added Trump, who also repeated his exaggerations of U.S. trade deficits by tens or hundreds of billions of dollars. He framed his trade attacks as a defense of U.S. national security, citing the weakening of the country’s “balance sheet” as the corresponding threat.

Trump Threatens to End All Trade With Allies
bbqkink said @ 6:55pm GMT on 10th Jun
ScoobySnacks said @ 7:04pm GMT on 10th Jun
bbqkink said @ 8:10pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Freud·i·an slip
ˌfroidēən ˈslip/
noun: Freudian slip; plural noun: Freudian slips

an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings.
Hugh E. said @ 10:00pm GMT on 10th Jun
It's FNC, so more like wish fulfillment (Wunscherfüllung)

According to Freud, wish fulfillment occurs when unconscious desires are repressed by the ego and superego. This repression often stems from guilt and taboos imposed by society. Dreams are attempts by the unconscious to resolve some repressed conflict.[2]
bbqkink said[2] @ 4:12am GMT on 11th Jun
Paul Krugman


It's normal to feel that people you disagree with politically are offering bad solutions to our problems. But Trump has brought something new: his policy agenda is almost entirely directed at problems we don't have -- problems that exist only in his warped imagination 1/

These include:
- A wave of violent crime by undocumented immigrants
- Massive illegal voting by the same
- Massive Canadian tariffs against US goods
- Conspiracy by the Elders of Zion to take over the world

OK, he hasn't actually gone after point #4, but give him time 2/

Journalists obviously have a hard time coping with all of this. They're afraid to say that the president is completely out of touch with reality -- that sounds "unbalanced." So, all too often, they pretend that he's talking about something real 3/

This amounts, in practice, to huge pro-Trump bias: you're bothsidesing a debate where one side isn't even wrong, just completely insane And the other dodge -- instead of talking about the substance, talk about how it's playing with Real Americans in diners -- is just as bad 4/

There's a test taking place as you read this: Trump defenders are out there claiming that Justin Trudeau, not Trump, blew up the summit. This is pure gaslighting; how many reporters will pretend to take it seriously? 5/

9:09 AM - Jun 10, 2018
ComposerNate said[1] @ 3:15pm GMT on 11th Jun
Should Putin poison Trump, would US consensus be to rally against the assassination of our president, or shame Putin for murdering one of his agents?
mechanical contrivance said @ 4:39pm GMT on 11th Jun
Neither. We would deny that Putin was behind it and blame Hillary.
0000 said @ 12:37am GMT on 14th Jun

George Monbiot in The Guardian.

0000 said @ 1:01am GMT on 14th Jun
Fish said @ 1:00pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:-5 Unworthy Self Link]
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bbqkink said @ 6:49pm GMT on 10th Jun [Score:0 Underrated]
Fish said @ 12:13am GMT on 11th Jun [Score:-4]
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