Friday, 1 June 2018

Winamp’s woes: How the greatest MP3 player undid itself

quote [ “When you think about what AOL had in early 2000,” he told Ars, “the only thing that they were missing that [would be] essential to today’s media system is a hardware device. They had the number one software for playing [in Winamp], and in theory, although not in practice, the [Time Warner] content library that could have been a pioneer in streaming. And a radio service. It had all the elements. AOL could have been Spotify, it could have been Pandora.” ]

Interesting insights in software dev history.
[SFW] [music] [+4 Interesting]
[by Paracetamol@7:35pmGMT]


mechanical contrivance said @ 8:22pm GMT on 1st Jun [Score:3 Original]
If there's one thing I can say about Winamp, it's that it really whips the llama's ass.
cb361 said @ 8:26pm GMT on 1st Jun
That's definitely what I took away from this article.
damnit said @ 11:35pm GMT on 1st Jun
Came here to say something similar. Beat me to it.

Worth it.
knumbknutz said[3] @ 9:18pm GMT on 1st Jun [Score:2 Insightful]
That article brings back bad memories of when I worked for SUN back in the early 2k's. had their main research research and dev facility literally a block from us, and I always seem to get a never ending stream of pain in the ass PEBKAC related service tickets oozing forth from that unorganized pile of brick and morter.

Always hit us up with the most atrocious ones at 4:55 on Fridays with them too.

Good times...
rndmnmbr said @ 9:45pm GMT on 1st Jun
Part of the issue can be laid at the feet of Justin Frankel himself. Look at the software he wrote - Winamp, Gnutella, WaSTE, the latter two being piracy programs. Frankel was a music pirate, wanted to build a community of pirates, and had no interest in commercial music streaming and sales.
arrowhen said @ 5:27am GMT on 2nd Jun
After that he wrote REAPER, a professional quality DAW at a price even broke-ass hobbyists can afford, with a demo policy so reasonable (no disabled features, no time limit, just a nag screen after 60 days) that even pirates will yell at people for pirating it.
rndmnmbr said @ 5:44am GMT on 2nd Jun
Yeah he wrote good audio software after he left AOL. People can change their focus. And no one would ever claim that AOL had any kind of focus or drive or expertise to do anything but flounder around helplessly.
EvilNinjaX24 said @ 11:40pm GMT on 1st Jun
I still use WinAmp. I may be one of few, but there it is.
5th Earth said @ 4:20am GMT on 2nd Jun
Can you still get it? I miss winamp.
EvilNinjaX24 said @ 4:37am GMT on 2nd Jun
I haven't the slightest. I would imagine you could. I've had this client (updated through '13) since '06.
rndmnmbr said @ 4:49am GMT on 2nd Jun still has it.
Paracetamol said @ 7:11am GMT on 2nd Jun
On Windows, Foobar is a worthy alternative. MacOS has several Cog forks, here’s a good one.

For Linux or any shell there are very efficient music players like cmus along with a range of tagging and playlist shell helpers.
ironpants said @ 8:16pm GMT on 2nd Jun
Foobar2000 runs well in WINE. I love its stereo spectrograph!
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:33am GMT on 3rd Jun
On Linux, Audacious has a Winamp option for the interface.
alloy said @ 12:03am GMT on 2nd Jun
Winamp is now of legal drinking age.
rylex said @ 12:47am GMT on 2nd Jun
So this means we can also have sex with it too?
Anonynonymous said @ 2:47am GMT on 2nd Jun
Was it ever good really?
blacksun said @ 8:56am GMT on 2nd Jun
Hell yeah it was. It was THE .mp3 player for several years. Skin-able, the visualization plugins, it was awesome.
stacyswirl said @ 9:05pm GMT on 2nd Jun
I still use it. I've never seriously considered anything else. iTunes is a bloated piece of shit that I've seen eat other peoples' collections. I remember when the updating of Winamp died around 2003, but I didn't know why it had happened. Fuck AOL even more than before. I love the quote in this article by Frankel
"I'd be like, look, our users don't want to use AOL!" he says. "They think AOL sucks!"
Exactly. Exactly.
dead_bob said @ 6:14am GMT on 3rd Jun
hell yes. I have a copy on every one of my Windows machines.
bon3s said @ 2:17pm GMT on 3rd Jun
What about winplay? In the olden days I preferred Winplay over the newish winamp back then haha :)

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