Cuz paying attention and showing up to vote is so difficult.

1. I don't condone violence as a productive solution long term but i find this hilarious. I may end up making it my ring tone. :D
2. We've been through this before and if you were as forgiving of others' situations as you are of your own you might stop saying this.
3. You're still defending a pro-fracking candidate as the UN has shifted from warning about our need to avoid a 2 degree shift to now begging that we stop fucking around and do what's necessary to avoid a 3 degree shift. You cannot lesser evil your way out of extinction. Clearly, you and I are paying attention to different things. So, subjectively, I would say the difficulty level is pretty high up there.
4. Free Will is bullshit and expecting others to suddenly pull themselves up by their bootstraps is bullshit whether it comes to poverty, changing behaviors, or grasping intellectual concepts. That's why I beg people to read to try to give them a helping hand until I can come up with something better.
5. Seriously though, you didn't even crack a smile? :D

I lol'd a little at the idea we could all get together to form a lynch mob, when half the country would be ok with lynching *us*.

It's a song about coming together, HoZay! :D

Besides even if they had their little revolution...what would they gain? The right to vote is all and they pissed that away before a shot was fired.

Also, fracking? I'm defending voting as a means of getting the change you want. No candidate for any office is ever perfect in every way, so even the best candidate ever is going to seem the lesser evil on some issue. The other option being the greater evil, which is what we got instead.

It's Earth Day, I'm trying to be topical. And relevant. I mean, you're defending voting in the context of a satirical song about violent uprising and you're doing it in a post ultimately about how the voting mechanisms are stacked against the will of the people.

You say Greater Evil, I say Different Evil. Which would be more evil, an Anti-Vaxxer convincing people not to vaccinate their kids or a Snake Oil Salesperson who convinces people to give their kids their bullshit product in lieu of a working vaccine? Either way the Herd Immunity is fucked.

If all candidates are equally evil, at least you can't be disappointed by the results. Lucky you.

Shows what you know, I'm disappointed by all the results.

And I say only possible options not ones in your imagination. because I can tell you with certainty Jill Stein is not going to get elected president.

That is what this post is about..unlike 2016 there maybe a viable other option or two in 2020 depending like always on primary elections on the right and it maybe on the left over the rules of the nomination.

On the right if Trump survives a center challenge...that will happen. And maybe one on the left if the Dems make it impossible for a progressive to win staying inside the party..yet to be seen.

Then again it could come down to the 4 choices you had in Nov 16. But this upcoming presidential has the possibility or 5 parties and a likelihood of 3 who have a legitimate chance of wining.

Voting in protest has the same value of thoughts and prayers. It is always a choice of who is close to my values...not who is perfect. If you want to call not perfect evil be my guest.

So you will maybe have

Jeebus. No one here was trying to elect Jill Stein as president. That's it. I'm tapping out. Peace.

I'm sure she will be running this time with the same viability as last time...But the point is you may have more viable choices this time...and Dr. Stein will in fact be more viable this time than last.

And ya a lot of people here voted for Jill Stein...why would they change now?

I voted for Jill Stein because my ballot didn't have a NONE OF THE ABOVE option. If I thought there was a chance she could win I would have just left the question blank.

fair enough. Your vote was a non vote protest...one of the three choice you are left with .
You chose a non vote but a the same time Fulfilled your civic obligation of voting. In my opinion you committed political suicide but you did it in an honorable way...My question is are you going to do it again?

Hillary took home 38.4% of the vote in my state, to Trump's 58.1%, surprising exactly no one. If I had voted for her, she would have lost in my state by 780,153 votes instead of 780,154. My protest vote might have been an empty, meaningless gesture, but so was showing up to vote in the first place (at least on the national level.) It's hard to commit political suicide when you're already politically dead and buried.

I'm pretty sure that is how my solidly blue state wound up with a billionaire Republican Governor.

I live in Louisiana, a solidly Democratic state from the end of the Civil War until the mid 90s, when the Democratic Party shifted away from its populist roots and stopped putting much effort into campaigning in the south. Since then, the vote has gone to the Republican presidential candidate by a wide margin in every election, though they're still not opposed to electing local Democrats, provided they're conservative enough.

I'm not sure how any of that applies to your state.

I live in Illinois solidly blue and we have a Republican Governor because people didn't turn out...the Old white Republicans...they turned out. Point is you never know what is going to happen vote in your own best interest every time...shit happens.

If free will is bullshit, isn't arguing with someone and expecting them to be able to reason their way into agreeing with you also bullshit?

Or are you just doing it because you have no choice?

We've been through this before as well. ;)

No Free Will doesn't mean you can't change your behavior. It's no different than a computer program popping out different output when exposed to new input. The question is what information is capable of changing a person's thoughts and behaviors, and what context is that input required to be presented in. Want to guess what technology presents information in such a way that it makes the brain very open to it?

AND I have no choice. I'm just along for the ride.

Read the comments before the post, and while the comments were clear, not sure what most of them had to do with the post. Then this is SE. Both the DNC and RNC are pretty much private clubs. You don't have to pay dues like in UK, but need to get involved to have any say. Back when the Dems were the party of Roosevelt and the new deal, not too important to most workers and such. The Repubs had their stuff and the people leaning towards them pretty much knew what they were voting for. It became clear to those that could see that things changed with Clintons triangulation. If Clintons campaign manager was telling the truth, during his run they had him distancing himself from threes go of the magor dem planks, and he was furious. Then as pres, he got on board with neoliberalism so there was that. Back in the early twentieth century there was a populist farmers teachers workers party. Big in the plains states. They got a bunch of state offices and picked up a couple f congressional seats. Spooked the Dems and Repubs so much, they got together and tightened up what it took to get on the ballot. They tightened it up so much that the Republicans couldn't make on the ballot in Nebraska or some similar state for one election. They fixed it so it let the republicans in but kept out the populous party. So I am saying it is not a two party race because that's the way it naturally will be, it's because the deck is stacked against any other parties. If the Dems were still the party of the new deal I'd say no big deal, but as they are not, I'd say fuck them, vote third party and hen things get bad enough, if we servive, things will change.

Or we as voters could do the research and vote for the candidate instead of the party. Thing is, with lots of the entrenched Dems, that would mean voting third party.

If the Dems were still the party of the new deal I'd say no big deal, but as they are not,

kinda hit the nail on the head..that is what this 2020 race is all about.

Bernie is out testing the water...Sen. Bernie Sanders talks politics with Al Sharpton

Trying to see in this case does he have a chance with black voters his shortfall last time.

There are several others trying to raise their profile, Bidden...Corey Booker...Martin O'Malley making a trip to New Hampshire...and a host of others sticking their toe in the water.

This post is about do the Dems stack the deck against progressives in 2020. The answer is what happens in 2018...if they do OK yes they will try and stack the Deck...but if progressives come out in force no they won't...simple as that.

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