Friday, 16 February 2018

FBI Admits It Failed to Investigate Tip About Alleged Florida School Shooter

quote [ The tip warned of Nikloas Cruz and the "potential of him conducting a school shooting"

In a statement, the FBI said that a person close to Cruz...called the FBI tip line with concerns on Jan. 5. The caller gave the FBI information on Cruz’s “gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

That information should have been forwarded to the FBI’s Miami field office for agents to investigate, but it was not.

“We have determined that these protocols were not followed,” a statement from the FBI read. ]

Oh, for fuck's sake. I wonder how many of these tips they get per month.
What is the pre-crime protocol for dealing with a potential shooter?
[SFW] [crime & punishment] [+1 WTF]
[by HoZay@6:18pmGMT]

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Taxman said @ 3:47am GMT on 19th Feb [Score:1 Interesting]
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C18H27NO3 said @ 6:44pm GMT on 16th Feb
I understand the FBI did in fact follow up. Talked to the youtuber that tipped them off.

But what the fuck were they supposed to do? What are the protocols? Place him under surveillance? Arrest him? Conduct more interviews?

But I can see the Reich wingnuts running with this to impugn the FBI.
Ankylosaur said @ 6:54pm GMT on 16th Feb
Limbaugh and Coulter are already pushing that nonsense, not to mention our own resident trolls. The FBI apparently consists of only a dozen or so agents who can only handle one case at a time.
Fish said @ 6:15am GMT on 17th Feb [Score:-1 Unworthy Self Link]
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HoZay said @ 7:02pm GMT on 16th Feb
I think this is not the same as the youtube thing.
Taxman said @ 1:24am GMT on 17th Feb
You can't do anything unless they are showing themselves to be a clear and present danger.

Normally approaching the subject, interviewing them, and leaving it at that causes them to self-reflect: "I am being watched".

They're (generally) more careful about what they say, and (generally) more careful about what they do. Or they save us all the trouble and snap right then and there.

The youtube comment I think was too vague to take seriously. Repeated postings or separate similar posts would have been needed.

I cannot fathom why they ignored procedures with the direct informant.
C18H27NO3 said @ 3:47pm GMT on 17th Feb
That may be true, but even if they did talk to him (you are being watched)it doesn't mean a mentally ill person intent on harming as many people as possible is really going to care. Unless they surveil him and intercede when he becomes a clear and present danger, I can't see the FBI acting like a baby sitter for every tip they get about someone ranting on the internet while holding weapons. Who's going to pay for that?

IOW, I'm not blaming the FBI like conservatives that look for any reason whatsoever other than the real problem. Now is not the time, libs want to take away your guns, mental health is the problem, culture is the problem. Everything is the problem except how one procures instruments of death. The NRA, the gun industry, and conservatives are hiding behind an amendment written over 200 years ago.
mechavolt said @ 5:15am GMT on 17th Feb
This is upsetting, but let's remember who the real culprits are: the ones who offer thoughts and prayers like this was some natural disaster we couldn't do anything about.
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bbqkink said @ 6:23am GMT on 18th Feb
Ruben Gallego‏Verified account @RubenGallego

Ruben Gallego Retweeted Donald J. Trump

You are such a psychopath that you have to make even the death of 17 children about you. America will regret the day you were ever born.


Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!


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