Wednesday, 14 February 2018

A Better Way to Look at Most Every Political Issue

quote [ Americans would be less alienated from one another and solve problems more easily if they recognized one little-noticed distinction in policy debates. ]

This is intentionally tagged as People instead of Politics, since it's more about framing and better communication than about any particular issue or position.
[SFW] [people] [+4 Interesting]
[by midden@1:11amGMT]


7 said @ 3:51pm GMT on 14th Feb [Score:1 Insightful]
I find the article a bit ironic, in that the author puts their finger on a very important point on improving political communication, but does a poor job of communicating it. And they speak of bringing the masses together, but express it in a manner that some conservatives would find “elitist”.

They have taken something that virtually everyone knows, but expressed it in a way that only a minority can (or would bother to try to) grasp. “Set of frames, binaries, spectrums, equilibriums, limits”. Ugh.

I give the author credit for at least trying to define the parameters of idiosyncrasies of individual opinion. If a method could be developed to simply and clearly define an individual position without automatically grouping that opinion with a similar, but contrary opinion, the world would be a better place. I’m afraid it’s beyond the ability of the author, and it’s certainly beyond me, but hopefully someone will eventually crack that nut.
Taxman said @ 1:34am GMT on 14th Feb
Somewhere along the way this happened and we as a nation have never recovered:

"There is a pernicious heuristic at work, where the mere act of conceding limits is conflated with lack of principle or with weakness and disloyalty."
cb361 said @ 12:16pm GMT on 14th Feb [Score:1 laz0r]
There is a pernicious heuristic at work, where the mere act of conceding limits is conflated with lack of principle or with weakness and disloyalty.

All good characteristics for an ambitious young Vogon.
conception said @ 3:03am GMT on 14th Feb

etc etc
bbqkink said[2] @ 3:16am GMT on 14th Feb
Happened before that.

The Fox News Channel (FNC) is an American basic cable and satellite news television channel that was founded by media mogul Rupert Murdoch in 1996. Murdoch appointed Roger Ailes as permanent CEO of the news operation. FNC (along with MSNBC) was created as an alternative to CNN. In January 2002, the ratings of the channel surpassed top-rated CNN to become the #1 news cable channel

The Contract with America is when they came into power.

The 1994 elections resulted in Republicans gaining 54 House and 9 U.S. Senate seats. When the Republicans gained this majority of seats in the 104th Congress, the Contract was seen as a triumph by party leaders such as Minority Whip Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, and the American conservative movement in genera

I just looked at my own dates you were right the contract came before Fox... I just taught my self a lesson I would have swore Fox came first.
conception said @ 7:39pm GMT on 14th Feb
No, we can blame just about all of our current political discourse problems on that asshole.
4321 said @ 2:18am GMT on 14th Feb [Score:-5 Boring]
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Taxman said @ 3:28am GMT on 14th Feb [Score:3]
arrowhen said[1] @ 2:56am GMT on 14th Feb [Score:0 Insightful]
I mean, it's not the simplest prose I've ever seen, but I kinda feel like those are words that anyone who's read a book or two after high school that didn't have "Harry Potter" in the title has probably picked up somewhere along the way.
midden said @ 2:21am GMT on 15th Feb [Score:-5]
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JWWargo said @ 6:03pm GMT on 15th Feb
Surprised he didn't touch on our ability to hold seemingly conflicting political viewpoints. Ask a pro-lifer if serial killers should get the death penalty and many would say yes.
mechanical contrivance said @ 7:00pm GMT on 15th Feb [Score:1 Interesting]
That isn't really a conflicting viewpoint. Some people believe it's only ok to kill people before they're born, and others believe it's only ok to kill people after they're born.
JWWargo said @ 10:11pm GMT on 16th Feb
I'd +1 Disagree you if I could. I see your point but, fundamentally killing is killing whether it's mass genocide or stepping on an ant. I think I'm arguing semantics at this point, though. Also, people are hypocrites by nature so it makes sense that one form of killing can be preferred.
mechanical contrivance said @ 3:12am GMT on 18th Feb
I do my killing before breakfast.
JWWargo said @ 3:37am GMT on 18th Feb
Great scott!

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