In the spirit of editing someone's work and cutting down the amount of time it takes to consume it, I offer my summary of the editor's list of changes:

"I hate powerful women, and I feel threatened by their growing presence in an imaginary world that I used to turn to for validation that women are weak and unimportant. Please enjoy my circle-jerk of one."

You’re giving the editor too much credit. Way too much credit.

OK. Let's try again, shall we?

Video Editor: "I am an utter fuckwit. Hurr hurr."

You have your finger on the pulse of MRA. ;)

Speaking of The Last Jedi, I agree with this fan's breakdown on Luke and how it ties back to the original trilogy.

http://bigshinyrobot.com/60239/luke-skywalkers-arc-star-wars-last-jedi/

Given that the theme of the movie is a new generation clinging to their legends, having to confront the reality behind them and finding ways to move on, I find it kinda wonderful that some people are reacting so badly to characters not acting the way they think they should based on an imagined characterization.

What the fuck is an MRA? Is that what you get when prostates start to enlarge at old age? I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

MRA= Men's Rights Activist. Basically, the idea that "men also deal with unfair stereotypes and ideals, that can be just as psychologically damaging even though the male ideals are often placed in power positions over women so they're not identical" -- which has valid discussion and deserves (and gets) pushback right alongside other feminism points -- got yoinked by toxic shitheads and turned into "men have problems too so shut up and know your place bitch."

Also likes to throw out the "soy boy" insults when, more often than not, that describes them sans the feminist part.

Ok good. I had to check the URL to make sure that was The Onion.

Soy boy, I didn't even know that was a thing. An old friend who just moved back to the country and is now a fucking white supremacist was telling me I need to "lay off the soy, mate", makes sense now.

But ... soy is white?!

It's apparently more of the "They're turning the frogs gay!" type of thinking. Any man who doesn't agree with them has been feminized by eating hormone containing soy products, causing us to become sissy liberal cucks who are no longer scared of women, foreigners and queers. Real manly men don't eat soy, it's still a bit strange and new for them and real manly men are terrified of strange and new things like food that isn't meat and sugar.

It's not their fault they constantly dream about dick, there must have been some soy products in their bbq sauce.

Thank you for alerting me to the progressive/feminazi threat to our frogs. You seem like someone who knows what's really going on, not like the other people in the trailer park. Are you aware of what the queers are doing to the soil?

I believe that these are the people who say that ALL genders matter. Especially males. Not anyone else. Couldn't hurt if you were white as well...

True, although I think most of them would say "BOTH genders", rather than "all".

I thought it went: white men, all other men, hot chicks, and my mom?

Gender fluidity would go from "hot chick I asked out" to "stuck up bitch who nobody wants". Transitioning takes seconds.

The hierarchy you laid out is correct, and the typical MRA's frustration comes from the fact that they have no chance at scoring with anyone in the first three groups.

I thought they did score with the first group (which should actually be "white hetero males") and that was how the rhetoric would perpetuate.

It’s a circle jerk. They talk amongst themselves with lack or no input from a woman’s perspective.

Having women friends is not enough. You have to listen and empathize. And even then, it’s continued education for the rest of your life because the patriarchy has ingrained itself in your thinking and way of life.

Men and not-men. We don't need different categories of not-men because Real Men instinctively know which ones are OK to fuck.

Its helpful keep in mind that pretty much all the points that MRAs bring up fall into two camps: 1) the ones that are accurate and already included in feminism (e.g., men are raped too and we should treat that as a serious crime), or 2) wildly inaccurate (e.g., men can't get custody of their kids - when in reality men typically don't seek custody, and thus, do not get it). Its pretty much only trotted out in an attempt to shut up people talking about gender equality/egalitarianism/feminism. MRAs simultaneously hold the worldview that men are superior, and yet also perpetual victims of women.

MRAs overlap significantly with PUA, incel, redpill, and Return of Kings communities.

I recall watching "The Red Pill" recently, because someone told me the feminist that made it ended up converted by the end.

They have some valid argument, but anyone can be made to look reasonable if you never ask them about the ridiculous bullshit they say. Her interviews with Elam are all about valid grievances with out of date family court statistics. Yet, I don't recall any pushback on his "please rape me bullshit."

And yes, I think you hit the nail on the head. They do appear to be of the mindset that they are the perpetual victims of some sort of gyno-legal complex conspiracy.

In the first case, while those things might technically be included in feminism, they're at best marginalized. Which leads in to the second group, which isn't at all inaccurate. Men may not seek custody as frequently, but they're far less likely to get it when they do. That those concerns would be labeled "wildly inaccurate" is rather the problem; feminism really doesn't want to address any issues that men face.

And then it becomes impossible to have a reasonable discussion about them without MRAs flinging their shit all over the place.

Yeah, men demonstrably seek custody less, probably because they think they'll never get it. The last study I read on it showed that when the dad seeks custody, its close to 50/50 for him getting it, which seems pretty even/fair, assuming both parents are equally competent. Although that was a couple years ago - if my stats are out of date I'll happily call myself mistaken.

If feminism reaches its goals, those issues would be addressed for men too. If rape isn't just that thing that happens to (bad) women, and is instead treated as a serious issue, we would treat male rape victims as survivors and not as a joke. If gender roles defining women as the designated child-rearer, there'd be no bias for one parent over another getting custody because of their gender. Or that skew where women can't teach higher levels of education and its considered creepy if a man teaches kindergarten.

But I know that is overly optimistic. :(

MRAs would read The Lord of the Rings, and conclude that that slut Eowyn cruelly emasculated the Witch King of Angmar by denying rightful male access to her vagina, with the collaboration of her cuckold hobbit. She then went and opened her vagina for Faramir, who was clearly queer, unlike his hard-drinking hard-fighting Real Man brother.

Methinks some young man is sadly lacking any masculine self confidence.

The two things that bugged me the most about The Last Jedi:

1: Poe should have been thrown in the brig for disobeying a direct order during combat, if not simply executed.

2: Use a real roast fowl, for god's sake! That prop looked like a piece of cheap, wax, 1970s, department store window dressing. It was totally distracting.

Wasn't the roast fowl just as realistic as the live fowl?

I feel like half those words deserve their own airquotes.

"Wasn't" "the" roast fowl "just" "as" realistic "as" "the" live fowl"?"

The porgy porg porgs as porgly as the porg.

Porgy porg didn't tell you porgly porgy porg. Porgly porgy porg.

PORG!

I think a lot of people said "Fuck you Disney" during the horseback chase scene. That whole subplot was dumb and in the end had no relevancy to the plot.

To me it felt like the kind of improvised side-adventure a GM in a tabletop RPG might throw in to fill out a gaming session when the PCs decide to veer off in some random direction instead of following the obvious quest hooks in front of them.

Whooosh

I liked the side plot, and I liked that it ultimately failed. It could have been tightened up significantly, though. That whole casino and fox-horse chase felt more like the prequels than anything else.

yes, an animal rights-themed podrace

That was a direct send up of the prequels. What they could have been, if someone had put Lucas in the old folks home sooner.

Everyone knows you're not a real Star Wars fan unless you hate Star Wars.

That was the whole point of RotJ dammit.

I somehow doubt the claim that a mens’ rights activist did this...they are typically older and actually concerned with male suicide, unfairness in child custitidy cases, and generally real world issues facing the male half of the population. Most MRAs do not hate women, strong or otherwise. So the claim is suspect to me.

If you sincerely believe this then there is a significant chunk of the internet flying under your radar. Unless you're pulling a No True Men's Right Activist.