Wednesday, 10 January 2018

Joe Arpaio, Ex-Sheriff Pardoned by Trump, Announces Senate Run in Arizona

quote [ Joe Arpaio, the polarizing 85-year-old immigration hard-liner pardoned by President Trump after a conviction for criminal contempt, announced on Tuesday that he is running in Arizona for the United States Senate. ]

It's official: Arpaio is running for Flake's AZ Senate seat.

Alabama - "We have the worst candidate EVER running"
Arizona - "Leeeroyyyyyyy Jenkins...."
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[by knumbknutz@3:06pmGMT]


kylemcbitch said @ 3:11pm GMT on 10th Jan
By the end, Joe Arpaio lost his seat in a deep red county over his antics.

I'd almost donate money to his campaign just so he wins the primary. Though I hesitate because that was 1 deep red county and this is a state race. But when Joe Arpaio is too racist for the people that vote for Joe Arpaio, it does make me consider.
Dienes said @ 5:02pm GMT on 10th Jan [Score:1 Insightful]
Do you want another Trump? Because that's how you get another Trump.
kylemcbitch said @ 5:04pm GMT on 10th Jan
It's also how you get another Doug Jones.
lilmookieesquire said @ 3:15am GMT on 11th Jan
Because that's the model we should be following.
kylemcbitch said @ 3:45am GMT on 11th Jan
Actually yes. We are talking a deep red state, which is going to elect someone that will agree with the RNC 90%~ of the time.

Joe is especially awful, I will grant you that. However, his vote in the senate will still be more or less Republican lock-step. So, if in general the result is the same (again, not saying that racism is the same as non-racism, but that a Republican from Arizona is going to vote Republican most of the time, regardless if they are racist or not.)

However, as Moore showed us, people will abandon extremist candidates.

Now, the reason I would not actually donate money is because I think most of Arizona has no problem with racism, and there isn't enough minority presence to swing the vote.
lilmookieesquire said @ 11:15pm GMT on 11th Jan
To address the mod, as far as the stats suggest, he wasn't abandoned by his supporters at all. (unless they died of old age) He lost because of a stronger than normal turn out of African Americans. older white males, and older white females were the base of his support.

I believe that would be mirrored in Arizona, replacing african american voters with latinX.

You can argue both are weak candidates, but there's nothing to suggest his base is abandoning him (unless you count death by old age).
kylemcbitch said @ 11:29pm GMT on 11th Jan
"Abandoning" in this case is not voting for the other candidate. It's not voting, or voting for third party.

As for the mod, whatever. You don't have to agree with me, but I do appreciate you at least defended it.
norok said @ 4:38pm GMT on 10th Jan
I don't live in Arizona and know very little about how the voters there actually think or view the controversy. I'm confined to the same mainstream media reporting about it as everyone else which will pigeon hole him as a racist never dare to ask the opinions of his supporters.

That once again creates the huge blindspot that made Trump's victory such a surprise to many. He could have a lot of support for this one issue in a border state. His contempt charge under Obama's JD made him a martyr to them. In recent highly publicized elections motivating your base is one of the most important factors.

In my own experience; the DNC and the media investing millions of dollars and publicity in their chosen opposition candidate sours local voters to the attention and opinions of outsiders. Which will happen here of course.
kylemcbitch said @ 4:45pm GMT on 10th Jan
I don't disagree that he could well be a hero figure to many people. But what is not in question is that he lost his re-election, and it was due to his own mishandling of his office. Obama's DOJ taking him to task for his admitted ignoring of the DOJ was after that fact.

I suspect you are right. I think his portrayal as a martyr, however undeserved, may well mean he has more support state wide.
knumbknutz said @ 4:57pm GMT on 10th Jan
I lived in AZ all through the 90's when he was in all of his pink-underwear-bring-back-chaingangs-no-airconditioned-120 degree-heat glory.

Think of the warden from the shawshank redemption - the most corrupt, bribe taking, kickback floating hypocrite imaginable, and multiply it by 10 and you got good old sheriff Joe. It was an open secret that the guy had his fingers in every dirty pie imaginable, and was actually flaunting it in everyone's face. Hell - you could even walk into a Circle-K and buy the pink underwear that his inmates wore (which he received a healthy kickback on).

And that corrupt, racist. POS just kept getting reelected. For decades. So don't think this is going to be a cake walk by any stretch of the imagination for whoever is going against him.
norok said @ 5:12pm GMT on 10th Jan
Alright, time to consult Wikipedia.

2004: Bush 54.87% Kerry 44.4%
2008: McCain 53.39% Obama 44.91%
2012: Romney: 53.48% Obama 44.45%
2016: Trump 49% Clinton 45.5%

On raw political affiliation the trend does suggest a shift Blue, but within the margin of error.

But I think that is less important than the reason the incumbent retired which was ostensibly due to the challenge of Kelli Ward. Remember there will be a primary so actually my initial research on R vs. D was probably moot.

I'm going to levy an opinion that he probably won't win and making a big deal of him is an "OMG I can't even" from the media for clickbait.
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:48pm GMT on 10th Jan
What do those percentages represent?
kylemcbitch said @ 8:51pm GMT on 10th Jan
I believe that is Arizona's total vote split?
norok said @ 9:54pm GMT on 10th Jan
ithaqua10 said @ 8:41pm GMT on 10th Jan
Fuck Joe Arpaio. this criminal asshole belongs on his own chain-gang wearing pink underwear.
SnappyNipples said @ 10:21pm GMT on 10th Jan
Can a convicted felon run for office?
ithaqua10 said @ 12:58am GMT on 11th Jan
one of the 24 hr news channels said that he was only convicted of a misdemeanor.
ithaqua10 said @ 1:00am GMT on 11th Jan
only charge they were able to stick was contempt of court.
Ussmak said @ 2:19am GMT on 11th Jan
The boomer vote in Arizona fucking loves him.

He's got a strong chance of winning.

Go ahead and call me a Nazi now.
kylemcbitch said @ 5:29am GMT on 11th Jan
I mean, if you insist. It's weird as fuck, you nazi, but who am I to judge someone for their kinks?
Ussmak said @ 6:27am GMT on 11th Jan [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]
Yeah, that's the stuff.

Now question my work ethic and pull my hair.

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