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Wednesday, 8 November 2017
quote [ As someone who grew up on the internet, I credit it as one of the most important influences on who I am today. I had a computer with internet access in my bedroom from the age of 13. It gave me access to a lot of things which were totally inappropriate for a young teenager, but it was OK. The culture, politics, and interpersonal relationships which I consider to be central to my identity were shaped by the internet, in ways that I have always considered to be beneficial to me personally. I have always been a critical proponent of the internet and everything it has brought, and broadly considered it to be emancipatory and beneficial. I state this at the outset because thinking through the implications of the problem I am going to describe troubles my own assumptions and prejudices in significant ways. ]
A related New York Times article
On YouTube Kids, Startling Videos Slip Past Filters Related subreddit /r/ElsaGate - lots of conspiracy stuff here, but also the most info on the vids in one place. Not quite elsagate but kind of related. ‘Hello, my name is Ally’ – how children are being exploited by YouTube predators
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Dienes said @ 5:11pm GMT on 8th Nov
[Score:2 Underrated]
How fast did a learning Twitter bot turn into a Nazi again?
We don't need a deep conspiracy to explain this. We have loud, shitty people screwing things up for the rest of us. Since when is that new? |
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arrowhen said @ 6:15pm GMT on 8th Nov
[Score:1 Insightful]
It sounds like the problem here is that children are boring and parents are turning to apps to handle the tedious chore of interacting with them. The obvious technological solution would be to replace children with apps that are interesting enough to be worth spending time with.
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mechanical contrivance said @ 7:28pm GMT on 8th Nov
A lot of people have already done that.
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Ankylosaur said @ 9:16am GMT on 10th Nov
[Score:1 Good]
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steele said @ 2:45pm GMT on 10th Nov
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steelmartyr said @ 3:11pm GMT on 8th Nov
Most dirty web content originally came out of 4chan. Now that they have been neutered and Moot long gone, all that comes out from there now is furry bullshit.
SA sits in the background with some of it's users posting out crap. But it's all too small to give a shit about. Now you have a new generation trying to get into the Deep Web when all they are really doing is scraping the top levels off the Undernet. I was in grade 3 when I got my first computer. A PET. Yeah, I'm old. Trolls are going to troll, the interbutts is just going to keep growing. Parents need to watch what their kids are looking at online. |
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cakkafracle said @ 2:58am GMT on 10th Nov
"Most dirty web content originally came out of 4chan"
Thats ridiculously naive... you could find the sickest (original meaning) shit on TheHun / Ogreish, etc, years before 4chan existed. |
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milkman666 said @ 5:55pm GMT on 10th Nov
4chan was just where it was shared, but places like the stileproject was where you had a curator collect and post that kind of stuff.
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cakkafracle said @ 1:34am GMT on 11th Nov
[Score:1 Good]
Correct.
blaming 4chan, or rather crediting 4chan as where "Most dirty web content originally came out of", though, is i still naive. It would be like saying "Facebook is originally where online stalking came from" |
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damnit said[1] @ 4:55pm GMT on 8th Nov
Machine learning is great. The source material isn’t.
Its easier to say that trolls are ruining machine learning apps from Microsoft or Google. Evil intentions are always there. Every generation before us have referred the next as degenerates or the downfall of society. Now amply that collective train of thought globally with the Internet. |
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Ussmak said @ 11:50pm GMT on 8th Nov
You guys are way behind the curve on this 'Elsagate' stuff.
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steele said @ 1:34am GMT on 9th Nov
For sure. I'd run across a video or two, but didn't know this was all a thing. The algorithms keep most of it out of my sight.
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robotroadkill said @ 3:17am GMT on 9th Nov
Wow, I had no idea what a phenomenon it is. My daughter used to be allowed to watch a YouTube video while brushing her teeth and this bizarre peppa pig crap would come up all the time. I just figured it was us getting unlucky with the tubes.
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lilmookieesquire said @ 5:06am GMT on 9th Nov
Why is Happy Tree Friends there though https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/comments/6o6baf/what_is_elsagate/
Stupid reddit. |
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rapscallion said @ 2:12am GMT on 9th Nov
Yeah, I don‘t think children need unsupervised access to the internet. There are some real weirdos out there...
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A much darker interpretation is that there's a group of people out there purposely fucking with the emotional and mental stability of future generations. Beyond just Silicon Valley.