Saturday, 28 October 2017

I started collecting ER bills. The American Hospital Association started warning its members.

quote [ These prices are often kept secret.

Hospitals typically keep their prices private. One study found it was significantly easier to get information from hospitals about how much their parking costs then track down the price of a common medical procedure. When I have tried to conduct interviews with hospital executives about how they set their prices, I find that many are reluctant to comment.

That’s why we launched our project to collect emergency medical bills — to bring more transparency to prices that are typically opaque (and often set very high). ]

Pretty cool study - link to study upload in extended.

Thinking of doing this - I had to take Mrs. knumbknutz to the ER a couple of months ago - even with insurance I still needed to cough up over 5 grand for a couple of hours of waiting, 1 pill, and a 30 second visit (for which they billed 1200 dollars for) from an incompetent PA.

Hospitals keep ER fees secret. Share your bill to help change that.

We take protecting your data seriously. Our database is secure and encrypted, and we won’t use your personal information without your permission. However, if you’d like, feel free to redact your bill before uploading it to block personally identifiable information, including your name, street address, Social Security number, birthdate, medical record number, patient identification number and insurance policy number.

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[by knumbknutz@4:05pmGMT]

Comments

Morris Forgot his Password said @ 5:36pm GMT on 28th Oct [Score:2 Funny]
I'm Canadian...
bbqkink said @ 11:06pm GMT on 28th Oct
Nobody likes a smart ass
Fish said[1] @ 2:47pm GMT on 29th Oct [Score:-1 Boring]
filtered comment under your threshold
Morris Forgot his Password said @ 12:57pm GMT on 30th Oct [Score:1 Underrated]
No, if you need something bad enough you order it online from Amazon.
If you have a medical emergency, you call 911. If you have a medical concern, you see a doctor.

The fear of medical bills is not an issue here, which in part explains why Canada, which pretty much has the same health lifestyle as the US has a higher life expectancy than the US, which has a top tier medical system, if you can afford it.
One pertinent set of data is neonatal mortality rate. In Canada it is 3 out of 1000, in the US it is 4 out of 1000. Simply because women without coverage put off going to see the doctor.

satanspenis666 said @ 5:27pm GMT on 28th Oct [Score:1 Informative]
I brought my wife into an emergency room at 11PM and we were charged for 2 days because we left after midnight. At the time, I had a sweet HMO that took care of this issue.
mechavolt said @ 8:46pm GMT on 28th Oct [Score:1 Good]
Everyone I know knocks on HMOs like they're shit and for the poors. I recently switched from a PPO to an HMO and I friggin love it. I mean, it's not perfect, and if you try and go during lunch you're gonna be there way longer than planned. But my healthcare is a far more streamlined process now - I can bounce from my doctor to my psychiatrist to the pharmacy to the flu shots to the phlebotomist all in one trip.

One big complaint I hear about HMOs is that you need to get approval from your primary physician before you can go to a specialist. But when I was on my PPO, no specialist would see me without a note from my doctor anyway. So I'm not losing any time there, either.
knumbknutz said @ 10:40pm GMT on 28th Oct
Thanks - that's good information. I'm getting ready to semi-retire mid next year, and go back into what I really love to do (the music business). I have been researching some of the HMOs in our area, and they are actually very affordable on what I will make after I quit my job and shuffle some investments around.

The thing that has been making me hesitant is the health care thing...I almost feel brainwashed in a way from our work PPO, as they have everyone convinced that HMOs are the worst thing ever concocted. So reading things like this really makes me feel a little more at ease about it.
mechavolt said @ 2:25am GMT on 29th Oct [Score:1 Informative]
The biggest problem I've had so far is overbooking. I went in for an 1130 appointment, and I didn't get seen until 1. So now I only schedule appointments at 430, and I get seen right away with no problems.
SkierTrash said @ 12:16am GMT on 29th Oct [Score:1 Interesting]
Where I live the hospital will actually give you an itemized receipt, HOWEVER, if you persist in getting it they'll gladly shave hundreds off your bill just to get you to quit asking

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